VA: Why Don’t Men Have a Birth Control Pill?
Mar 8th, 2007
(11 votes, average: 4.09 out of 5)
Loading ...The people who suggest that my brother-in-law is a pussy who should start standing up for himself are hopelessly naïve. If he were to display too much backbone, he’d likely […]
Original post: Why Don’t Men Have a Birth Control Pill?
do your homework V.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3543478/
I can vouch for abstinence…
but it at this point it borders
on painful…
and may cause cancer and mental illness…
but hey… no pain, no gain right?
Well written V
*the emerild salute*
*wishes upon a star*
and 4 1s
I said 4 1s
wish wasn’t for sex…
that’s all I’m allowed
to divulge.
it’s baffeling to me that so many people seem to be missing the point entirely.
it seems as few realize or understand that it’s not the biological functioning that she’s talking about, so much as the societal ones that needs a’ fixing
she just uses what we have around us to illustrate points.
because if she just spoke what she was feeling, 99% wouldn’t get it - so she uses what we know to draw parallels… (and still only 50% get it)
but the whole point of the two posts aren’t about unfair sexual practices per se, more like unfair sexual roles and distribution of power as it pertains to the sexes (specifically to the rearing and choice of birthing) in our society…
V - i get you. and you’re right - at least this time ;)
(i’m not just about talking here, but digg too)
I thought that condoms were effective when used properly. V characterized it a completely failure full method of birth control. Also, condoms protect women against infections just not STI because they have a greater surface area.
I do agree that women do have an oops pill, but I’ve heard that it’s not a pleasant experience taking it. I’ve known women who have abused the morning after pill instead of taking a proactive approach to birth control.
While I agree men should have more say in having kids/raising kids, I don’t think that women get off as easily as V is implying.
I think that the stigma of being called a bad mom is just as horrible as being called a deadbeat dad. she she mentioned her sister in law being too lazy to work, but people often lambast women who choose to go to work during the day than staying home all the time. is it fair that its perfectly acceptable for men to work, but a woman is a bad mother if she does?
yes i think its ridiculous that women have all the power in courts and plenty of good fathers are kept away from their kids just because of a bitter mother. but mothers don’t exactly have it easy either. gender roles are difficult for both genders, not just men, but the article seemed to imply otherwise.
as a side note, if you are sleeping around and not using a condom properly, you’re at a risk for a lot more than pregnancy.
To clarify; Your brother-in-law was likely a puss before he married this woman, and he continues to be one now. Way to get defensive though. Apart from that, nice post.
Ronnie suck my stump as the wizard walks by…
V was extraordinary in (their) compassion with this post….
Nice example of verbal diarrhoea. It splutters all over my screen.
There is a perfectly good contraception (sort of) technique available to men. It is called a of the post conception variety.
A plethora of sub techniques exist. Some of them are:
- kick to the cunt and the uterus, repeat until you can see fetus juice ooze
- Coat hanger up the vaginal chute
And to add a modern touch
- Vacuum cleaner and blender and ice for fresh cool fetus juice…
These maybe a bit drastic but they work and to top it they are perfectly safe for men. it is a win win situation for all significant parties involved
I’m sorry? I’m supposed to feel bad for a guy that married a bitch?? Boo fucking hoo. Didn’t he marry her before they even had kids? Why should I feel bad for someone that made a poor decision to spend the rest of his life with someone whom he knew very well had an attitude problem? Where’s the accountability for him? People have this great thing called choice you can CHOOSE to marry whoever the fuck you want to. Yes men don’t have as many birth control options, didn’t anyone’s mother ever tell them that life isn’t fair and to make the best out of it? The brother in law made bad decisions which is why his life sucks, oh well.
You do know love is blind, right? It’s all in the limbic system.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3804545.stm
It’s not just hard to be 100% rational and reasoned in the choosing of a partner, it’s almost impossible. For this reason, giving any sex an upper hand when things go inevitably wrong is very dangerous.
You guys seem to want an uneven playing field. Even if I thought I was magically the best judge of character of history, being able to see behind the motives of the most schizophrenic bint - I’d still want mine even.
what do you mean by “you guys” seem to want an uneven playing field? that is a strong generalization. believe it or not, not every woman is like the seadonkey - in fact, most of the women I know aren’t. I see a huge number of families where both of the parents share responsibilities and make decisions for the kids. just because one woman is a bitch doesn’t mean they all are.
I know most women aren’t sunny, if they were I probably would have topped myself long ago and would not be posting. The ‘you guys’ was aimed at those chastising her brother-in-law.
ahh, gotcha. sorry for the misinterpretation
Dude, you make this site worthless.
It’s “impossible” to be rational when choosing who to marry? Maybe when your twelve. Anyone who let’s thier heart alone guide them when choosing who to be with needs to smarten up. That’s just not the kind of world we live in. And you can’t tell me that after being with someone for a few years that your still in that “I love you so much that I’ll forget all about my needs and focus on yours” phase. That ends after about two years and if you marry someone before spending at least that much time with them you’re an idiot. Marriage is about love but it’s also about practicality too.
*hesitates*
Good point jen…
Love is a biochemical reaction.
Marriage IS all about practicality…
@33
Jenny, people change. The girl you married doesn’t stay that girl (nor does the guy stay that guy). We get bitter about the opportunity costs of the choices we make. If we have a woman at home/man at work situation, he gets pissed off at the company, his colleagues and the world, she blames it all on him because there is no-one else to blame.
The problem is that by this time, the woman has nothing at all to lose by dumping the perceived cause of all her unhappiness, while the guy can’t dump the world.
The problem is that the courts (in the US and in UK where I live) take
a short term view that they have to act in the best interests of the children given the situation they, the courts, are presented with, rather than act in the best interests of ALL children by insisting on upholding the position of both parents in the children’s life, even if that means jailing the woman for contempt for failing to obey her part of the court order that pertains to proper access.
Things would be a sight better if women were given court orders that said:-
1. She has to deliver the kids at the fathers place of residence (at her own expense), providing he doesn’t move an unreasonable distance away from his previous residence, regardless of where she subsequently choses to live.
2. The courts audited the womans expenditure to make sure that every last penny allocated in child support was spent only on the children. Let’s have no more of this ‘it’s in the child’s interest that I’m happy, so I’m entitled to use the money as mine and to buy a new outfit to go out in and pay for a babysitter’.
She needs to get jailed for breaching this order, regardless of the effect this would have on the children.
Both parties to a divorce should be aware that:
1. He will be broke and not be able to see his children as often as both they and he need,
BUT
2. She’ll get stuck at home, broke, with not even his miserable company, and if she moves away so far that he can’t attend events in their lives, she’ll have to find money that doesn’t come from him to get them delivered to his doorstep every other weekend.
Cases of domestic violence, child abuse and other criminality would of course be an exception.
Watch the divorce rate drop when that happens. Watch people actually work at fixing their relationships.
Hi jenny984, you need to learn how to use quotes. Putting one word in inverted commas doesn’t mean you have gracefully summed up my argument, if you think it does, your an idiot.
But hey, I’m an amiable guy, I’ll make it easier for you. Yes its *almost* impossible to be entirely rational when choosing who to marry (you can quote that). If it is possible, congratulations, you have a mental disability. Let me clarify the semantics of that for you, because when your explaining humanity you need more than the word ‘rational’.
The only reason people come together and stay together is because of your brain and its chemicals. If we didn’t have them you wouldn’t desire that hot stud, or that hot chick. Simple. Are you saying that before sex you rationalise the process? You coolly and collectively both sit down and mutually decide that the best course of action for the afternoon was to get naked and to rub your naughty bits together? No, it’s guided by millions of years of evolution to make you switch off your rationale and say ’stick it to me hot stuff’.
So the desire process is guided by our animal instincts ‘Ok’ you say ‘I can handle that’. But the process of staying together, coupling, marriage? ‘Thats entirely my own choice’. Sorry, wrong! That too is down to evolution. There is a whole ballet of inbuilt physiological responses to partnering up, and to say your 100% in control of them is stupid. I suggest reading up on them for more detailed explanations, but I can some it up for you:
Love = (Low serotonin + High norepinephrine + High dopamine) = Batshit crazy
Ok, yes there is some leeway, your not about to go marry that axe murderer. There are limits, you haven’t completely lost it, and to a large extent your are ‘you’. I’m not saying marriage can’t be about love and rationality. Just that one can vastly obscure the other in a blaze of drug educed delusions, ones that just happen to be natural.
But jenny984, this isn’t what the discussion is about, its about leveling the field, which for some reason you seem to think isn’t needed. Men just need to ’smarten up’ according to you. While yes, I would like the population to be more intelligent, people have always done, and still will do crazy-stupid things for love. I – personally - wouldn’t change that for the world. I just want them to have more of a protected future when they do.
Wow easy killer, it’s just the internet :) I said nothing about being rational before sleeping with someone, I was talking about before marrying someone and if you don’t have any thought process relating to marriage then congratulations, you’re a moron. But listen, I can tell from your intense overreaction to my comments that you’re not going to have to worry about marriage any time soon.
@ 35 How long would this incarceration last?
@36 Wow… thanks is right on… thanks.
@37 ‘Wow easy killer’ it was just a justifiably passionate response…
blocking, banning, jailing… great ideas.
Emeril you’re just mad at me cause I called you a serial killer
Hardcode, answer my question.
How long would your proposed
incarceration via 35 last?
Jen I’m not mad at ya…
you can call me whatever
you want…
everyone else does.
I actually like what folks
are saying on here today.
Though I don’t think blocking, banning and/or jailing
is going to solve anything… with regards to this site
and parenting in general.
it’s kinda like war is not the answer…
: )
@40
Sorry emerild, I didn’t answer your (perfectly appropriate and to the point) question before because I didn’t read it: this will happen when most of what you write is what it is, something that you might care to ponder.
The answer is, not long. A week or so, or if the kids are in school, perhaps community service during school hours instead. I suspect that in each country that has a system akin to the disfunctional ones running in the US and UK, it will have to happen very rarely. A judge won’t often have to ask:
“Mr. Smith, given a little notice, can you arrange to take the kids for a week while your ex is in jail? If accommodation is an issue you can stay in the family home.”
A good time to do it would be when/if the father has a scheduled family holiday with his kids. If she’s working too, this would have the advantage that she has to use up her holiday days going to jail, and that year he’s the only one able to be the good parent taking the kids somewhere great.
For repeat offenses, the judge needs to consider changing custody arrangements.
hardcore…I agree that people change, you’re right. I just figured that if someone changes that drastically there is probably (in all seriousness) some sort of mental dysfunction in which case the father could easily prove the woman’s instability and receive custody.
I don’t think jailing someone for not driving thier kids to someone’s house is very reasonable though…especially if the divorce wasn’t initiated by the person expected to do the driving.
OH and Thanks…I’m sorry to personally insult you but it’s hard for me to take anyone seriously that starts out thier rebuttal with the words “Hi jenny984, you need to learn how to use quotes” as if I had said something specifically directed at you which is why it seemed you were overreacting to me…
hardcore… I like the community service idea better
than the jail idea… also I’m sorry for the lyric/poem/spam
bit, but sometimes I just feel like lightening the mood.
I guess it has the opposite effect on some people.
If you notice though… most of the lyrics actually,
at least to me, seem to be at least a bit pertinent to the
issues being discussed.
Maybe not?
If it really bothers ya’ll that much I’ll do my best to
keep it to a minimum.
You want a serious emerild you got it.
jenny984, you seem to have gotten confused. I was merely using your illogical reasoning as a focal point to help me clarify my opinions to those that may be interested. I don’t care what you (specifically) think. I may read what you say, but it will never enter my consciousness as something important, at most it may become a contemplative bullet point around which I form my own opinions. Don’t kid yourself; Your impression on me is at best fleeting, and at worst, immeasurable. Don’t waste your time apologizing. Waste it thinking.
Wow you’re even more of a douchebag than I thought
whoa horsies…
thanks & jen you’ve both had
good points & obviously at times
we all use illogical reasoning…
‘Don’t waste your time apologizing. Waste it thinking.’
Great line… I’m the apologizerer here anyway
jen you have no reason to apologize.
I, on the other hand, obviously do.
jenny984: You started your rebuttal in our discussion with pointing out where I mistyped… same thing essentially. :D Which means, according to your own words, you can’t take yourself seriously either. :)
Just a side note of an observation.
Oh jesus christ did I accidently wander into the whiny men room? I’ll be a hypocrite if I want to but just to let you guys know, all this pathetic boo-hoo life isn’t fair shit is NOT gonna get you anywhere with the ladies. Thank GOD I already got mine and he’s not a whiny little pussy like you guys are.
‘Oh jesus christ did I accidently wander into the whiny men room?’
Why’d you have to bring that asshole into it?
Other than that…
amen.
@jenny984
so according to you all the male members of our species should have the OH SO LOFTY ambition of “getting somewhere with the ladies”.
“Ladies” are dime a fucking dozen so are men…. infact look at the exploding population of this fucking planet , it would seem getting somewhere with a lady is one of the easiest things a man could do.
jenny984 i hope your gender based, overly lofty, self importance leads to your downfall with every male relationship you have and you die a lonely old shrew with warts in your cunt.
i say just pull out…..that’s just me.
Sorry bsd…I already found one :) Good luck with that whole internet aggression thing you have going on, you know what you should try? Getting off the internet and going outside cause it’s really not normal to have such intense anger towards someone over the internets. But if you’d like to continue with your ridiculous blog comment break downs please do, my office thoroughly enjoyed the “warts in your cunt” comment XXOX
lol @41