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Today I stopped by my local Starbucks for a cup of coffee. Before I left the cream and sugar counter to sit by a window, sip my drink and zone […]
Original post: Starbucks is Racist
So V isn’t white. I didn’t see that coming at all, though I guess there wasn’t really any reason to.
The plot thickens …
I vote Jewish, in what will no doubt become the “Speculate about V’s Ethnicity” post.
V being a minority surprised me too especially since she said something about being a pale face when she was with Tyrone. My guess is she’s half black.
Minority? Why vote about it? It’s not like it’s a game. Minority can mean anything. Maybe something in genes, or religion like some guessed here already. Maybe something in the family origins (pale faced, but from… Ukraine)? Maybe sexual orientation? (There’s more than straight and gay.) Maybe her IQ is about the same as 2% of the population?
It can even be so that in her Ford Focus Lover’s Club she is the only one who drives a blue Focus? (Getting quite far fetched, eh?)
My point: Did she say she means ‘ethnic’ minority?
I guess that’s why they call it ‘positive discrimination’ in the workforce here in the UK. Still, I agree with her point that skills and ability should nix any racial issues. What’s surprising is that it’s even an issue these days.
@3
She might be black. After all, she grew up estranged from her dad! *rimshot*
AAAAND thats what struck all of you with this post? V might not be white?
Seriously?
Jaskula is a Polish name, isn’t it?
… I’m sorry, but just exactly what the FUCK is wrong with you people?
Gotta go wit Gina here, the one thing people go after is her comment on being a minority?
… Just, hahahahaha…
Liberal Racism, Reverse Racism whatever you want to call it, its all the same crap. That’s what she’s getting at. At the same time, if a company is not hiring what a particular minority seem to feel is enough of ‘their people’, they get nailed for that too.
It’s what happens when you have a world full of people who are content to remain victims rather than just get on with their lives.
The real question here is; will she give up Starbucks over this?
The suspense is killing me.
as a white, male african-american, i’ve been discriminated against many times. i’ve been unable to get a civil service job, for example, because my skin is white and I have a penis.
The government mandates percentages of ‘minorities’, why shouldn’t they state it?
i agree that it’s ridiculous.
I also laughed out loud to know who’s bringing the salsa.
Affirmative action is FUN. /gag
@ 11 — you’re a what? a white african american male? like a somalian indian female? or an african asian male?
put that in your glass pipe and smoke on it for a moment
Racism is still a problem in a lot of places, for a lot of people. If one of your company’s goals is to be an equal opportunity employer, and it fucking better be as far as I’m concerned, you need metrics to gauge performance to that end.
I’m not saying Starbucks, or any company for that matter, deserves a cookie for each other-than-cracker hired, but I fail to see the big problem with publishing goal-tracking numbers.
My employer has always prided itself on workplace diversity. Not because they check up to the minute race and sex population numbers before every interview, but because they don’t. We find pride in the fact that we don’t hire on race, sex, creed, etc and have ended up with an incredibly diverse workforce as a result.
-isms in hiring would only result in a lack of diversity, a monochromatic workplace of closeted XY chromosomes; but that isn’t what the numbers show.
Racial or minority quotas are illegal.
Employers are allowed to have abstract or non-numerical goals, but enforcing a specific number quota on Human Resources is highly illegal.
(Example: We should hire more people of X demographic, but we can’t set a number on how many has to be hired.)
Race is such a funny thing… throughout my entire life, I have always been a little sad that I do not look Native American like my cousins… just because my dad married woman or Russian/German lineage, I look like Pippy Longstockings, instead of Pocahontas. Genetics can be a bitch and one with a very evil sense of humor.
Instead of gaining the best of both ‘tribes’ (small Indian shoulders, large German breasts, tiny Indian waste, shapely German legs and small waist, nicely padded Indian butt) I end up EXACTLY the opposite.
But the one time I am actually GLAD I look the way I do is when it comes to knowing that I got where I am because of my knowledge and skills. I do not have some deep seated insecurity (like many minorities I know) who KNOW damn well that they are smart and capable professionals, but who always will wonder if they would have gotten that job if they did not look like a minority.
I could have check marked the ‘minority’ box and had a leg up… but I prefer to have paid out the extra money in collage to have the piece of mind for the rest of my life that it is who I am and not what I am that is important. It is worth looking like a hunchbacked wine barrel with huge hips, a concave chest, no ass and thighs the size of a redwood tree (when I am at my PERFECT weight) to have the option that so many minority do NOT have.
Kaye:
It’s possible to be African-American and still be white.
Consider model/actress Charlize Theron, for example. I don’t know if she has become a U.S. citizen, but if she has, then she would be a very white, very blond, very attractive African-American.
Current marketing techniques are not much different than the propaganda techniques of the past.
The target demographic are often entirely unable to see ironies and hypocrisies.
It’s an odd situation that so many people can’t understand that a “constructive” mention of race is anything but.
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#17 Assman: Oh, you North-Americans. Even though EU has it’s brand new Constitution (we just don’t call it a constitution, but the “Treaty of Lisbon”) we can diffrenciate between countries, even if they are in another continent.
If you call someone African-American, shouldn’t that be more of African-North-American? Or if you make sure a nation is represented in one part, it’s should be also in the other? Such as Congolese-American? Asian-American or African-American sounds to me that an American doesn’t know nor care if there are countries in Asia/Africa.
In Finnish we might say a person is Finland’s-Swedish, for example. (Literal translation.) A citizen living in Finland, but has Swedish origins. Finnish person in Sweden would be Sweden’s-Finnish. Those are pretty much the only definitions we use, since we have a special relationship with Sweden*.
Charlize would be Finland’s-South-African, if she would be a citizen. Regardless of skin color or religion. It only represents the country of origins. We just wouldn’t call her Finland’s-South-African, but only Finnish. By her current nationality, not by her skin color nor origins. If it is relevant to the subject, we might say she is “South-African born Finnish”.
(* - We have a love/hate relationship with Sweden. They are our closest neighbours, not only geographically, but also culturally. Still, we’ve been dominated from about 1000 CE when crusades came to North, up until late 1800’s when national awakening started. In 1200’s Finland was already officially a part of Sweden. - 1812 neutral Finland didn’t want to fight a war alongside with Russia against Napoleon, so Russia conquered us from Swedish. In October 1917 they had some minor problems in Russia, so we managed to gain independence in December. But still today some (read:many) Swedish look down on us. Almost a thousand years under domination doesn’t wash away easily, but on our part we have succeeded quite well. We’re friends now.)
I believe she is latina. Just like me.
What do you say? That my last name is russian? Well, but I am latino because I was born in fucking latin america. I fucking speak spanish, have traditions from my homeland, and therefore I’m latinoamericano.
But USA’s retards think that an ethnicity is about where you born and not your DNA.
An egyptian is a muslim, when he introduces himself what would he think? “Do I say that I’m a muslim or that I’m African? I look white, so they won’t believe me even though I WAS BORN ON AFRICA. What the hell, I’ll pick the religious minority…”
So please, go back to “white”, “black”, “chink”, and all of those for the sake of nationality.
When my snow white cousin has to fill a form, she has to put she is latina and people won’t buy it, because she doesn’t look Mexican! There are over 40 latin countries, many of them in europe (yes, Spain, Italy, even France!) so please, GRAB A FUCKING BOOK AND LEARN.
nice find, V ;) One whole Latino, LOL :D
And that is fuckin racist. They count their employees like some species in a zoo..