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		<title>By: Chucker Max</title>
		<link>http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-ryan-holiday-is-definitely-not-mediocre-he%e2%80%99s-worse/#comment-6416</link>
		<dc:creator>Chucker Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Furthermore, our financial books are completely transparent to the author. If you want to see the reports from the various ad agencies to verify how much your site is made, you are absolutely free to do so anytime."

Tucker isn't telling the truth?  Say it ain't so!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Furthermore, our financial books are completely transparent to the author. If you want to see the reports from the various ad agencies to verify how much your site is made, you are absolutely free to do so anytime.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tucker isn&#8217;t telling the truth?  Say it ain&#8217;t so!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-ryan-holiday-is-definitely-not-mediocre-he%e2%80%99s-worse/#comment-6382</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BC Woods wrote:
Hey!

A friend of mine referred me to your website, when they saw that I was
indirectly mentioned in one of your posts.

As you probably know, I wrote for Rudius and authored daddydonthitme.com for
six months.

Although I don't have a problem with Ryan Holiday, or anyone else at Rudius
besides Tucker Max, I do like to help spread the message about Rudius so that
potential writers at least know what they're getting themselves into when they
sign on.

While your assertion that I made less than $100 a month is technically correct,
I thought I would give you a more accurate figure for you to do with as you
will.

My TOTAL pay for six months was $83. Although I was of course not an hourly
employee, to put that in perspective, that makes my max pay about 50 cents an
hour, or more realistically about 35 cents an hour. From what I have been told,
this is about half the wage of a pre-pubescent migrant fruit picker.

When I asked Tucker Max why my pay was so low, and if this is what I could
expect it to be in the future I was promptly fired, and told that I was going to
be left as "the nothing he found me as."

As I said, Tucker Max is the only person I ever really had a problem with at
Rudius, and for the most part everyone else seemed amicable enough. I just
wanted to let you know in case you ever found a reason to share this
information, because, as I said, I at least want people to know what they're
signing on for when they write for the company.

Regards,

BC

PS

I very much enjoy what I have seen so far of your website. Your writing style,
while acerbic, is very entertaining. Thank you for your time.

Website: www.dunceuponatime.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BC Woods wrote:<br />
Hey!</p>
<p>A friend of mine referred me to your website, when they saw that I was<br />
indirectly mentioned in one of your posts.</p>
<p>As you probably know, I wrote for Rudius and authored daddydonthitme.com for<br />
six months.</p>
<p>Although I don&#8217;t have a problem with Ryan Holiday, or anyone else at Rudius<br />
besides Tucker Max, I do like to help spread the message about Rudius so that<br />
potential writers at least know what they&#8217;re getting themselves into when they<br />
sign on.</p>
<p>While your assertion that I made less than $100 a month is technically correct,<br />
I thought I would give you a more accurate figure for you to do with as you<br />
will.</p>
<p>My TOTAL pay for six months was $83. Although I was of course not an hourly<br />
employee, to put that in perspective, that makes my max pay about 50 cents an<br />
hour, or more realistically about 35 cents an hour. From what I have been told,<br />
this is about half the wage of a pre-pubescent migrant fruit picker.</p>
<p>When I asked Tucker Max why my pay was so low, and if this is what I could<br />
expect it to be in the future I was promptly fired, and told that I was going to<br />
be left as &#8220;the nothing he found me as.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I said, Tucker Max is the only person I ever really had a problem with at<br />
Rudius, and for the most part everyone else seemed amicable enough. I just<br />
wanted to let you know in case you ever found a reason to share this<br />
information, because, as I said, I at least want people to know what they&#8217;re<br />
signing on for when they write for the company.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>BC</p>
<p>PS</p>
<p>I very much enjoy what I have seen so far of your website. Your writing style,<br />
while acerbic, is very entertaining. Thank you for your time.</p>
<p>Website: <a href="http://www.dunceuponatime.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dunceuponatime.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: i</title>
		<link>http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-ryan-holiday-is-definitely-not-mediocre-he%e2%80%99s-worse/#comment-6366</link>
		<dc:creator>i</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6499095.stm

Take a look at the other thread, where someone has posted pictures of her house. 

As far as I'm concerned Tucker Max and Ryan Holiday are both completely worthless individuals.</description>
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<p>Take a look at the other thread, where someone has posted pictures of her house. </p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned Tucker Max and Ryan Holiday are both completely worthless individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: Amarie</title>
		<link>http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-ryan-holiday-is-definitely-not-mediocre-he%e2%80%99s-worse/#comment-6354</link>
		<dc:creator>Amarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without regard to whether or not Ryan's blog entry (the original one which sparked her criticism) was "juvenile and thickheaded", he certainly seems correct when he states "It's not even about me. I'm just a proxy. She really hates Tucker Max.". In this entry she mentions him for seemingly no reason, and not only that, she writes: "Oh, canceled before it even made it to production? Shocking. How do you suppose you’re going to spin that into a positive, Mr. PR genius?" This would make a lot more sense had Tucker been ruthlessly promoting a show that wasn't even in production yet, assuming that anything he wrote would obviously make it to television, but he himself said on his own blog:

"A few things to note:

-Most importantly--and I cannot emphasize this enough to those not in the entertainment business--this does NOT mean I am automatically going to have a TV show. Comedy Central bought a pilot from me. Now I have to write it. If (and it is NOT certain) they like it, then they will decide to shoot it. Once it is shot, they will watch it and decide if they want to order a season. So as of right now, there are still two MAJOR steps left before this becomes a show that is on the air (if it even happens at all). Yeah, I am really excited to have this deal, but the show is not on the air until it is on the air."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without regard to whether or not Ryan&#8217;s blog entry (the original one which sparked her criticism) was &#8220;juvenile and thickheaded&#8221;, he certainly seems correct when he states &#8220;It&#8217;s not even about me. I&#8217;m just a proxy. She really hates Tucker Max.&#8221;. In this entry she mentions him for seemingly no reason, and not only that, she writes: &#8220;Oh, canceled before it even made it to production? Shocking. How do you suppose you’re going to spin that into a positive, Mr. PR genius?&#8221; This would make a lot more sense had Tucker been ruthlessly promoting a show that wasn&#8217;t even in production yet, assuming that anything he wrote would obviously make it to television, but he himself said on his own blog:</p>
<p>&#8220;A few things to note:</p>
<p>-Most importantly&#8211;and I cannot emphasize this enough to those not in the entertainment business&#8211;this does NOT mean I am automatically going to have a TV show. Comedy Central bought a pilot from me. Now I have to write it. If (and it is NOT certain) they like it, then they will decide to shoot it. Once it is shot, they will watch it and decide if they want to order a season. So as of right now, there are still two MAJOR steps left before this becomes a show that is on the air (if it even happens at all). Yeah, I am really excited to have this deal, but the show is not on the air until it is on the air.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ziah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ziah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27

No and no.

I'm curious how he thinks he can pass this off as a convincing argument, even on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27</p>
<p>No and no.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious how he thinks he can pass this off as a convincing argument, even on the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Beam</title>
		<link>http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-ryan-holiday-is-definitely-not-mediocre-he%e2%80%99s-worse/#comment-6308</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Beam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Up until now I just thought people read blogs for personal amusement and then got on with the rest of their lives.  I didn't realize the 'rest of their lives' bit is completely missing in most cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Up until now I just thought people read blogs for personal amusement and then got on with the rest of their lives.  I didn&#8217;t realize the &#8216;rest of their lives&#8217; bit is completely missing in most cases.</p>
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		<title>By: ConcernedCitizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConcernedCitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and it couldn't have happened to a NICER person!  
Hollie, If you can't stand the heat, get out of the blogosphere.  Noone will notice or care, anyway.

PS:  "If You Are a Stay-At-Home-Mom without Interests Outside of Your Kids, Hobbies, or Marketable Skills, You are NOT a Feminist"  

no, you're a BLOGGER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and it couldn&#8217;t have happened to a NICER person!<br />
Hollie, If you can&#8217;t stand the heat, get out of the blogosphere.  Noone will notice or care, anyway.</p>
<p>PS:  &#8220;If You Are a Stay-At-Home-Mom without Interests Outside of Your Kids, Hobbies, or Marketable Skills, You are NOT a Feminist&#8221;  </p>
<p>no, you&#8217;re a BLOGGER.</p>
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		<title>By: enc</title>
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		<dc:creator>enc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ziah, do you honestly really want to know who V is? Is it even important? He can't come up with a decent argument, so he's attacking her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ziah, do you honestly really want to know who V is? Is it even important? He can&#8217;t come up with a decent argument, so he&#8217;s attacking her.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, agree with Ziah. Ryan posts a ticket for a 'Hollie Toner' in Ohio and claims it is V? WTF, indeed. Googled the name and found nothing - anyone else - true or not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, agree with Ziah. Ryan posts a ticket for a &#8216;Hollie Toner&#8217; in Ohio and claims it is V? WTF, indeed. Googled the name and found nothing - anyone else - true or not?</p>
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		<title>By: Ziah</title>
		<link>http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-ryan-holiday-is-definitely-not-mediocre-he%e2%80%99s-worse/#comment-6300</link>
		<dc:creator>Ziah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out Ryan Holiday's most recent post.  Hollie Toner?  WTF?  Where did he get this piece of information and how is it he thinks he can be so certain about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out Ryan Holiday&#8217;s most recent post.  Hollie Toner?  WTF?  Where did he get this piece of information and how is it he thinks he can be so certain about it?</p>
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