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		<title>By: GoingIncognito</title>
		<link>http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-most-women-are-nothing-more-than-wasted-potential/#comment-5567</link>
		<dc:creator>GoingIncognito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I was a little harsh in my last post. As a SAHM a nerve was hit. 

 My mother could have been V's mothers twin. In fact Id ask my grandmother about a secret second baby if she were alive. My childhood was the same freakshow horror as V. So YES people do live that and no, not all gorgeous Barbie doll blondes are great mums. 

 To me raising my small children in the most loving way IS my ultimate vindication. Its a big FUCK YOU to my mother who swore she was right in the terribble things she did to us and we would do the same when we had children. My own mum wasnt a SAHM , she worked and very successfully at that. She was a monster and dirty slob at home. 

 My mother who was such a evil woman and lives and breathes by what her coworkers think of her and see's her children as the same way Paris see's her purse dog; just little accessories to do with whatever she wants or do nothing with. 

 The world sees a pretty, blonde, petite , wonderful person who works and is so caring. We saw a screaming, raging, punching, kicking, master manipulater,  lunatic that tortured us. Well only I see; my sister killed herself when she couldnt handle raising her child. 

 Im sick of people acting like they are demi-gods and know everything about the motive of everyone and trying 2 make me feel like crap for not living the life THEY would have chosen for me.

 I dont think , " Hey V, you made a bunch of screwed up choices and you should immediatly go get pregnant so you can experience motherhood they way it should be but according to MY opinions." And I wouldnt because the truth is I dont get a vote on how anyone else should live their lives. I genuinely dont feel judgement against working mothers because a woman more fullfilled in herself through her career will be a better mother to me.

 But right now I feel more fullfilled in being the mother to my kids I always wish I had had.

 That being said I also do enjoy gardening, reading, learning, teaching my kids, sometimes writing .When my kids are older I want them to work with the community and participate in charity. You'll catch me at a library with my kids far sooner than any Mommy &#38; Me bitchfest where the cats shred each other to pieces. 

 I do have goals for the future that include going back to school when my kids are a few years older and maybe even owning my own business one day. 
 I dont want to be 60 and wondering where *I* disappeared to in all the diapers and games. I dont want to ONLY be remembered as " She sure made a great pie and had a passion for Mums."  

 Id just like to enjoy the place I am in right now without getting crap from people who dont live my life, know my past or have a clue about my future plans. Sometime I think articles like these make people feel like they have more of a right to be ugly to each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I was a little harsh in my last post. As a SAHM a nerve was hit. </p>
<p> My mother could have been V&#8217;s mothers twin. In fact Id ask my grandmother about a secret second baby if she were alive. My childhood was the same freakshow horror as V. So YES people do live that and no, not all gorgeous Barbie doll blondes are great mums. </p>
<p> To me raising my small children in the most loving way IS my ultimate vindication. Its a big FUCK YOU to my mother who swore she was right in the terribble things she did to us and we would do the same when we had children. My own mum wasnt a SAHM , she worked and very successfully at that. She was a monster and dirty slob at home. </p>
<p> My mother who was such a evil woman and lives and breathes by what her coworkers think of her and see&#8217;s her children as the same way Paris see&#8217;s her purse dog; just little accessories to do with whatever she wants or do nothing with. </p>
<p> The world sees a pretty, blonde, petite , wonderful person who works and is so caring. We saw a screaming, raging, punching, kicking, master manipulater,  lunatic that tortured us. Well only I see; my sister killed herself when she couldnt handle raising her child. </p>
<p> Im sick of people acting like they are demi-gods and know everything about the motive of everyone and trying 2 make me feel like crap for not living the life THEY would have chosen for me.</p>
<p> I dont think , &#8221; Hey V, you made a bunch of screwed up choices and you should immediatly go get pregnant so you can experience motherhood they way it should be but according to MY opinions.&#8221; And I wouldnt because the truth is I dont get a vote on how anyone else should live their lives. I genuinely dont feel judgement against working mothers because a woman more fullfilled in herself through her career will be a better mother to me.</p>
<p> But right now I feel more fullfilled in being the mother to my kids I always wish I had had.</p>
<p> That being said I also do enjoy gardening, reading, learning, teaching my kids, sometimes writing .When my kids are older I want them to work with the community and participate in charity. You&#8217;ll catch me at a library with my kids far sooner than any Mommy &amp; Me bitchfest where the cats shred each other to pieces. </p>
<p> I do have goals for the future that include going back to school when my kids are a few years older and maybe even owning my own business one day.<br />
 I dont want to be 60 and wondering where *I* disappeared to in all the diapers and games. I dont want to ONLY be remembered as &#8221; She sure made a great pie and had a passion for Mums.&#8221;  </p>
<p> Id just like to enjoy the place I am in right now without getting crap from people who dont live my life, know my past or have a clue about my future plans. Sometime I think articles like these make people feel like they have more of a right to be ugly to each other.</p>
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		<title>By: GoingIncognito</title>
		<link>http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-most-women-are-nothing-more-than-wasted-potential/#comment-5566</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant help but wonder if Violets rage against the mothers who do want to nurture their children and be at home is born from her own misery at having a mother who was a demented FREAK show.

 Its not like V's mum baked her cookies, took her to the library, cuddled and adored her. No, V was terrrorized, abused in unspeakable ways and tormented by the bitch for years. I dont care what anyone says ; V has been jaded. 

 For someone who was NOT raised by a loving mother or one who even really loved her she sure has alot of shit to talk about mothers who do love their kids . 

 Yes, Mommy bloggers are annoying and stupid. Yes, some women pop out kid after kid and neglect them as they wallow in filth in front of a tele. But not all mums at home are like that. And some mothers who work outside the home are fucking heartless bitchs who are horrid mothers who work because they HATE being near their kids. Should all mums who work be painted with that brush ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant help but wonder if Violets rage against the mothers who do want to nurture their children and be at home is born from her own misery at having a mother who was a demented FREAK show.</p>
<p> Its not like V&#8217;s mum baked her cookies, took her to the library, cuddled and adored her. No, V was terrrorized, abused in unspeakable ways and tormented by the bitch for years. I dont care what anyone says ; V has been jaded. </p>
<p> For someone who was NOT raised by a loving mother or one who even really loved her she sure has alot of shit to talk about mothers who do love their kids . </p>
<p> Yes, Mommy bloggers are annoying and stupid. Yes, some women pop out kid after kid and neglect them as they wallow in filth in front of a tele. But not all mums at home are like that. And some mothers who work outside the home are fucking heartless bitchs who are horrid mothers who work because they HATE being near their kids. Should all mums who work be painted with that brush &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: briavael</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur, V!  One of my biggest pet peeves is the parental types who act as if their acts of procreation entitle them to behave in the most uncivilized ways.  In NYC, I'm constantly irritated by Those Who Should Have Used Contraception since they lumber around these SUV sized baby carriages, knock you over while they cart around their all-too-old-for-a-stroller spawn, and give you the Death Stare for having the audacity to be annoyed.

And my only response is, "Hey, only one of us had the consideration to practice birth control so you can fuck off."

Ok I know that was a rant not connected with wasted potential, but I've got gripes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur, V!  One of my biggest pet peeves is the parental types who act as if their acts of procreation entitle them to behave in the most uncivilized ways.  In NYC, I&#8217;m constantly irritated by Those Who Should Have Used Contraception since they lumber around these SUV sized baby carriages, knock you over while they cart around their all-too-old-for-a-stroller spawn, and give you the Death Stare for having the audacity to be annoyed.</p>
<p>And my only response is, &#8220;Hey, only one of us had the consideration to practice birth control so you can fuck off.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ok I know that was a rant not connected with wasted potential, but I&#8217;ve got gripes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God for VA. As a recent immigrant (legal) to this great country of yours, certain ‘cultural’ quirks have made me stop in my tracks and do a minor doubletake, one of them being the seemingly huge number of stay-at-home mothers and their apparent feeling of DUTY (although ‘entitlement’ would be more honest of them) to be so on the grounds that having attained the pinnacle of achievement that is giving birth then nurturing their children is their raison d’etre for the duration of their lives. It’s like stepping into a Stepford wife and mother timewarp for me. In the UK we raise ‘em, hopefully teach ‘em the basic skills necessary for survival then it’s ‘you’re on your own, good luck and bye bye, come back and visit once in awhile and we’ll have dinner, hell I might even bake a cake if I can remember where I left the cake tins.’ This is the way I and most of my UK contemporaries raised ours, taking a break to get them through infancy and in some cases toddlerhood but then working at least part time until school age when full time work becomes more or less the norm for most UK mothers. 

Yes, we have a percentage of spoiled, middle class, stay-at-home mothers clogging up the commute every morning in their SUVs as they drive the 300 or so yards to school to drop off their precious cargo but they are the exception rather than the rule and frankly even they would balk at having a bumper sticker declaring “Proud Mum of a 4th grade honours student” or "Proud Football Mum". Even they know they would be sunk in a sea of cackling derision from their peers that all their artificially-inflated mammaries and peroxide highlights couldn’t keep them afloat in. And the football-playing, 4th grade honours student kid would spend the rest of  his school career in an agony of embarrassment and finger pointing from his peers. Of course UK kids are sometimes honours students too and they do play football or have dance lessons or are wizzes in the chess club but, while we mothers volunteer and go along to cheer etc, it does not become the be all and end all of our existence or an excuse for the warped, vicarious oneupmanship it seems to be here. UK women are proud of themselves because of their OWN achievements not their kids’. They don’t let hard-won educational and professional qualifications or workplace experiences all go to waste once they become a mother. They know that being a mother is only part of what they are, they can continue to forge their own way in life whilst simultaneously rearing their children. They know their children are not accessories or extensions of themselves, but individuals in their own rights and the real duty of a mother is to make sure her children will one day be able to successfully follow their own path as independent adults.

You should have heard the howls of horror and protest I got from American stay-at-home mothers I know (my UK friends and my own mother applauded my decision wildly) when I first decided to leave everything behind and come here to marry an American man I met during our mutual travels a few years ago after my divorce. Not so much that I planned to emigrate but because I was leaving behind my children. I’m a terrible mother, abandoning my poor, helpless offspring to their fate while I build myself a whole new life 5000 miles away. And how can I bear to be parted from them anyway? For those who might imagine I abandoned two mewling infants on the orphanage steps and fled the country, the fact is my children are 23 and 18. Yes I love them and yes I miss them but I also have a life to lead and a right to find happiness while they are getting on with their own lives. The older one hasn’t lived at home beyond a few weeks here and there since he left to go to college at age 18 and is happily cohabiting with his girlfriend, doing well in his career and is in possession of a passport, directions to the nearest airport and a credit card with which he can buy a plane ticket to come and vist me any time he chooses. 

My younger son chose not to accompany me – he may come here to settle in the future since he likes what he sees of life here - but to continue his post-HS education in the UK. He is not out on the streets left to sink or swim but living with his father and is surrounded by other family and friends nearby. That said, he is legally an adult and if I have done my job right while bringing him up he should not need to be wet-nursed by me or anyone else and would laugh in the face of anyone who suggested he was somehow incapable of fending for himself. He has flown out here twice for extended visits, is due to make another around Christmas and we keep in touch by phone and email. Like I said, they have lives of their own and I provided them with the lifeskills necessary to pursue those lives successfully and happily (maybe I should get a bumper sticker “Proud Mum of two healthy, intelligent, well adjusted and independent men”) and they are happy for me and proud of me for pursuing my own life and not living vicariously through them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God for VA. As a recent immigrant (legal) to this great country of yours, certain ‘cultural’ quirks have made me stop in my tracks and do a minor doubletake, one of them being the seemingly huge number of stay-at-home mothers and their apparent feeling of DUTY (although ‘entitlement’ would be more honest of them) to be so on the grounds that having attained the pinnacle of achievement that is giving birth then nurturing their children is their raison d’etre for the duration of their lives. It’s like stepping into a Stepford wife and mother timewarp for me. In the UK we raise ‘em, hopefully teach ‘em the basic skills necessary for survival then it’s ‘you’re on your own, good luck and bye bye, come back and visit once in awhile and we’ll have dinner, hell I might even bake a cake if I can remember where I left the cake tins.’ This is the way I and most of my UK contemporaries raised ours, taking a break to get them through infancy and in some cases toddlerhood but then working at least part time until school age when full time work becomes more or less the norm for most UK mothers. </p>
<p>Yes, we have a percentage of spoiled, middle class, stay-at-home mothers clogging up the commute every morning in their SUVs as they drive the 300 or so yards to school to drop off their precious cargo but they are the exception rather than the rule and frankly even they would balk at having a bumper sticker declaring “Proud Mum of a 4th grade honours student” or &#8220;Proud Football Mum&#8221;. Even they know they would be sunk in a sea of cackling derision from their peers that all their artificially-inflated mammaries and peroxide highlights couldn’t keep them afloat in. And the football-playing, 4th grade honours student kid would spend the rest of  his school career in an agony of embarrassment and finger pointing from his peers. Of course UK kids are sometimes honours students too and they do play football or have dance lessons or are wizzes in the chess club but, while we mothers volunteer and go along to cheer etc, it does not become the be all and end all of our existence or an excuse for the warped, vicarious oneupmanship it seems to be here. UK women are proud of themselves because of their OWN achievements not their kids’. They don’t let hard-won educational and professional qualifications or workplace experiences all go to waste once they become a mother. They know that being a mother is only part of what they are, they can continue to forge their own way in life whilst simultaneously rearing their children. They know their children are not accessories or extensions of themselves, but individuals in their own rights and the real duty of a mother is to make sure her children will one day be able to successfully follow their own path as independent adults.</p>
<p>You should have heard the howls of horror and protest I got from American stay-at-home mothers I know (my UK friends and my own mother applauded my decision wildly) when I first decided to leave everything behind and come here to marry an American man I met during our mutual travels a few years ago after my divorce. Not so much that I planned to emigrate but because I was leaving behind my children. I’m a terrible mother, abandoning my poor, helpless offspring to their fate while I build myself a whole new life 5000 miles away. And how can I bear to be parted from them anyway? For those who might imagine I abandoned two mewling infants on the orphanage steps and fled the country, the fact is my children are 23 and 18. Yes I love them and yes I miss them but I also have a life to lead and a right to find happiness while they are getting on with their own lives. The older one hasn’t lived at home beyond a few weeks here and there since he left to go to college at age 18 and is happily cohabiting with his girlfriend, doing well in his career and is in possession of a passport, directions to the nearest airport and a credit card with which he can buy a plane ticket to come and vist me any time he chooses. </p>
<p>My younger son chose not to accompany me – he may come here to settle in the future since he likes what he sees of life here - but to continue his post-HS education in the UK. He is not out on the streets left to sink or swim but living with his father and is surrounded by other family and friends nearby. That said, he is legally an adult and if I have done my job right while bringing him up he should not need to be wet-nursed by me or anyone else and would laugh in the face of anyone who suggested he was somehow incapable of fending for himself. He has flown out here twice for extended visits, is due to make another around Christmas and we keep in touch by phone and email. Like I said, they have lives of their own and I provided them with the lifeskills necessary to pursue those lives successfully and happily (maybe I should get a bumper sticker “Proud Mum of two healthy, intelligent, well adjusted and independent men”) and they are happy for me and proud of me for pursuing my own life and not living vicariously through them.</p>
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		<title>By: sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 9 

I might of missed something, but I don't think I saw any "feminists" complain.</description>
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<p>I might of missed something, but I don&#8217;t think I saw any &#8220;feminists&#8221; complain.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Jass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@3

that made me chuckle</description>
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<p>that made me chuckle</p>
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		<title>By: Allie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ow, my ovaries. XD

Good points, good post. T'would be something if men, women, and all them he/she's did some truly neat shit.</description>
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<p>Good points, good post. T&#8217;would be something if men, women, and all them he/she&#8217;s did some truly neat shit.</p>
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		<title>By: John Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus christ, will you feminists ever stop complaining?! shit, you've nearly got equal rights to men and plus equality is bullshit, just like socialism some minority always has to be oppressed because it makes people (in general) feel good. So stop crying crocodile tears and STFU feminist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus christ, will you feminists ever stop complaining?! shit, you&#8217;ve nearly got equal rights to men and plus equality is bullshit, just like socialism some minority always has to be oppressed because it makes people (in general) feel good. So stop crying crocodile tears and STFU feminist.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!</description>
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		<title>By: Ziah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ziah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post!  Having children is a biological function.  Why make something like that the ultimate goal of one's life?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post!  Having children is a biological function.  Why make something like that the ultimate goal of one&#8217;s life?</p>
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