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3 year old girl from this article: Tie my shoe!
V: I would never help a little girl who spoke to me so rudely.
3 year old girl: May you please […]
Original post: Manners and More SIDS
I am a 24 year old physics major. When I was 12 I watched my infant niece choke to death as I breathlessly awaited the arrival of emergency services in what the doctors would later attribute as SIDS.
My niece was under the care of my parents at the time who had no motive to, as you would say choke the helpless infant to death. I watched my father perform CPR on her as the life drained out of her body. I watched her die. She wasn’t already dead. She wasn’t choked to death or smothered by a pillow. It’s a tragedy which still touches my entire family to this day.
This wasn’t a baby “coming down with a bad case of SIDS” courtesy of the baby’s mother. My mother had been trusted the care of her sister’s newborn baby, while they were attending a wedding. Your generalization of SIDS to outright murder touches me closely enough that I felt, as a long time reader of your site, required to speak out. I realize the value of not censoring yourself while posting on this site, but I have to say these few posts cross the line into ignorant generalization.
Yep, but it’s nowhere NEAR as sensational as:
“What was the MOMMY doing while her baby died?? Inquiring TV stations (Geraldo) want to know…”
Face it, VA, you’re full of shit here. The book you quote has so many of its facts wrong that it should be sold inside out.
And EVERYONE knows that real facts come from Google, not the CDC, right?
My mom’s brother died of SIDS when he was 2 weeks old. He had been premature and had underdeveloped lungs. He died in his crib while his parents and 3 sisters slept. My grandparents were devastated - my grandmother was depressed for ages AFTER that, not before.
I don’t doubt that there are cases of parents killing their babies, but it’s just not the case for every SIDS victim.
I’m really glad VA (and VA’s family) has never experienced that kind of tragedy, and I hope they never do. But if it does happen to them, I hope they don’t have to experience people assuming the mother was the culprit.
This is a fairly simple logical fallacy that V is committing.
If you commit a crime and lie and use B as your excuse, that does NOT mean every time B occurs, a crime must have been committed.
I’m perfectly sure there are CASES were V is right and SIDS was used as an excuse for infanticide. This does NOT logically or statistically imply that EVERY or even MOST cases of SIDS imply child abuse or infanticide.
It’s exactly what LF said. Sometimes it’s SIDS, and sometimes it’s “SIDS.” But both exist.
Sorry V You’re right about delving deeper to get the facts straight, I will read your recomendations, I usually go to medical sites when I need medical answers, silly me.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/547019
I knew this was going to open up a can of worms, but I reacted without thinking
that you love to make fun of others tragic misfortunes. Yes I’m sure there has been murders covered up by the term SIDS, but there are just too many cases to slip under the radar. There have been many autopsies and only lately thanks to new tech and money for research things are showing up to explain this death.
All in all a great debate, but lets move on to more fun things.
I still think you have the best blog on the net and look forward to your bang on insights to our fucked up world.
M.
How the hell can that be perceived as a joke? Where’s the fucking punch line??
@7
Friend: What are we calling infanticide again?
V: It’s PC to call it ‘SIDS’ now.
http://www.ilovewavs.com/Effects/Music/RimShot.wav
Oh right, I just didn’t get it. My bad.
It occurs to me that V & Friend would not have had to have this conversation, had the mothers of the ‘retard babies’ experienced a serious dose of ‘SIDS’ themselves. Ahh but isn’t hindsight a bitch? LOL
VA, if a baby was somthered by a pillow, an autopsy would reveal this in the analysis of the lungs due to asphyxiation. VA you’re so full of shit on your theory.
@ Myroid, you’re an idiot too. STFU.
Once again, V astounds us all with her incredible insight into the workings of the human mind… please. As many people have already said, infanticide doesn’t account for all cases of SIDS; there’s no grand conspiracy theory going on here. I predict her next post to be another “you guys don’t understand meeeeeeee” type of thing - or perhaps she’ll just carry on as if she didn’t just make an incredible ass out of herself. Whatever. And I continue to read VA even after the number of times she’s been completely full of herself (and/or full of shit - it’s the same thing, after all), because I while like it when her posts actually make sense, I enjoy the dog and pony show of her moronic posts even more. Keep ‘em coming!
I agree with a few people here - while SIDS may be a cover up for SOME infant murders, it’s totally wrong and quite frankly hugely offensive to say than SIDS isn’t real.
@Xin
Yeah? Well you’re an asshole. I thought it was funny–maybe V should start including rimshots to denote her jokes since people can’t seem to tell when she’s joking.
I am thinking that V has had some experience with SIDS somewhere in her life - maybe her mom smothered one of her siblings? You know it musta been all crying and annoying. (And, please I am being sarcastic. I think V is an asshole on this topic.)
The occurrences of SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) has been dramatically reduced since the early 1990’s, when the AMA and other scientific organizations linked infants sleeping on the stomaches to the syndrome. Since then, pediatricians have instructed parents to place their infants on their backs or sides in the crib/bassinets, and the incidence of SIDS has decreased dramatically since then. For someone who claims to have extensive child-care experience, this is a pretty ignorant post from VA.
I am sure that rarely, mothers suffering from severe PPD have harmed their babies, but that has nothing to do with SIDS. I don’t think that this is a joke-worthy subject in any case. And why on earth would she use it as another opportunity to bash women?
Meh… I thought it was funny. But, then, I’ve never taken what V says seriously. Or personally.
Cuz, you know, she doesn’t know me. I think some people just like feeling offended. Here, I’ll help you out: fuck you guys.
http://xkcd.com/386/
Other “funny” jokes sure to come:
Friend: What are we calling the systematic purging of an inferior race?
V: The holocaust? They deserved it.
Friend: What are we calling god’s punishment for being gay?
V: Cancer? If you get it, god hates you because you’re a fag.
Ryan wins!
Ryan, I think god’s punishment for gayness is AIDS, not cancer.
EPIC FAILURE!
I’m personally grateful for all the mothers that SIDS’ their kids. We have enough assholes in this world, and all assholes were babies once.
This is not a matter of people taking V’s comments personally and enjoying taking offense. This is V crossing the line on a real issue, compounded by ignorant comments from the peanut gallery.
I still don’t get the ‘joke’ about it, but I can deal with a bad joke. What’s pissing me off right now is the V wanna-be’s who are flipping off (and in some cases, insulting-for-the-sake-of-being-insulting) readers who feel strongly (and know a little something) about the subject of the bad joke.
It was private conversation which would not have been offensive to anyone, had it not been repeated online for reaction. So, V, are you satisfied with the reaction? Can you move on now?
Oh, yeah, and mamakitty: Infanticide has nothing to do with what the kids might have become. The mothers who do this to their children are murderers. They are the assholes.
Wen: I’m sure there are lots of people who share V’s opinion. You’ll run yourself ragged trying to correct them all. Of course I know that SIDS is real, but I’m also not naïve enough to think that there aren’t parents out there that kill their babies on purpose and blame it on SIDS.
That’s the thing about a blanket, mystery cause of death. “A baby died? Do we know how? Oh, well… let’s call it SIDS.” I wonder how many times it was called SIDS even when there wasn’t sufficient proof otherwise.
So, of course you won’t find the joke funny if you have personal experience with it. But you sound very self-righteous, as though you have never said anything that might offend somebody. So, what? Because she posts it online *that* makes her an asshole? Not that she thinks it, but that she’s willing to state it to others? That doesn’t even make sense.
Do you people actually think that dead babies are so common that the police just blow it off? Do you have any idea how stupid you sound to anyone with 1/2 a clue? Or 1/2 a brain? Have you all watched so much CSI that you believe it? WTF?
“That’s the thing about a blanket, mystery cause of death. “A baby died? Do we know how? Oh, well… let’s call it SIDS.” I wonder how many times it was called SIDS even when there wasn’t sufficient proof otherwise.”
This is beyond stupid: it’s plain offensive. And it makes no sense.
An autopsy is MANDATORY in every state for unknown cause of death, while not in a hospital. If the coroner can’t determine the cause of death, then it is listed as “Unknown/Undetermined” not “SIDS”. Don’t believe me? Call your local Coroner’s office first thing Monday, or look up the law online. Come back with some facts, and then try to keep a straight face.
As far as searching Google for medical advice goes, please search for “auto-lobotomy” and then get back to us.
Jesus Christ, folks, don’t be stupider than V, even though that’s not a particularly high bar.
“It was private conversation which would not have been offensive to anyone, had it not been repeated online for reaction” is merely an observation about the purpose of the post. Posting it doesn’t make V anything but provocative, which is what drew me to her blog in the first place.
Wen: Yes the mothers are the assholes. Too bad they don’t kill themselves too. It’s just my take on overpopulation. But, the baby killing mothers typically languish around to make more babies. I notice most DADS I read about that kill their children do take themselves along too.
I THOUGHT the joke was that V’s friend was so stupid that when V said “We’re calling it SIDS,” the friend didn’t notice that SIDS and infanticide aren’t the same thing. Is that possible? Joke’s on V’s idiot friend?
Drama is funny. I see why all the anonymous of the internet revel in it, from the sophisticated V to the hordes of the chans.