Comments on: VA: Just Say ‘NO’ to Bastard Children http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/ violentacres.com feedback site Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:54:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Elle http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-19782 Elle Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:50:48 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-19782 What bitter self-righteous idiots in here. Something happened on your journey through life? This bitterness is just a joke and the woman who wrote this is just narrow minded. Do you really think that people who wait to have kids did everything right in their life? I've known people who would meet your standard of perfection; but I also know their dirty little secret of abortion, leaving their kids and husband to run with another man, leave their kid(s) at home while they go out and get drunk... Sorry if the world is not up to your standards. People who shout out their rules of expectation and demand on others are just bitter fools. What bitter self-righteous idiots in here. Something happened on your journey through life? This bitterness is just a joke and the woman who wrote this is just narrow minded. Do you really think that people who wait to have kids did everything right in their life? I’ve known people who would meet your standard of perfection; but I also know their dirty little secret of abortion, leaving their kids and husband to run with another man, leave their kid(s) at home while they go out and get drunk… Sorry if the world is not up to your standards. People who shout out their rules of expectation and demand on others are just bitter fools.

]]> By: Kirth http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-11514 Kirth Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:15:16 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-11514 I find what's going on these days rather stupendous. I know someone who's only 20 and already got a kid. The stupid thing is he isn't even married to the mother. He spends huge amounts of money on random stupid shit, and geuss what? He can't pay some of his bills for the next month. He claims he barely has time to do anything, but still he has all kinds of online-game subscriptions, and leaves his computer on all day (bad for your bills, AND THE ENVIRONNEMENT). That kind of people make me hurl. I'm 15 years old, but with what I've seen on television and heard from other people; I feel more mature than more than 50% of the world. Weddings, another crap story. Nothing more than the church' way to lift some more money out of your pockets. That's what religion is; taking controll over easy-convinceable people. And lightening up their wallet while they're at it. Kirth I find what’s going on these days rather stupendous. I know someone who’s only 20 and already got a kid. The stupid thing is he isn’t even married to the mother.

He spends huge amounts of money on random stupid shit, and geuss what? He can’t pay some of his bills for the next month.

He claims he barely has time to do anything, but still he has all kinds of online-game subscriptions, and leaves his computer on all day (bad for your bills, AND THE ENVIRONNEMENT).

That kind of people make me hurl. I’m 15 years old, but with what I’ve seen on television and heard from other people; I feel more mature than more than 50% of the world.

Weddings, another crap story. Nothing more than the church’ way to lift some more money out of your pockets. That’s what religion is; taking controll over easy-convinceable people. And lightening up their wallet while they’re at it.

Kirth

]]> By: Elle http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9337 Elle Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:27:21 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9337 Why so hot and heavy on marriage ? What makes two people who get married more suitable as parents than two people who want to spend their lives together without that bit of paper ? Why so hot and heavy on marriage ? What makes two people who get married more suitable as parents than two people who want to spend their lives together without that bit of paper ?

]]> By: Alex http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9324 Alex Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:19:21 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9324 I have been with my boyfriend for almost 5 years. Waiting on marriage and children until we KNOW that we are ready. However everyone has found it necessary to ask us (I would guess from 5 months into the relationship) "OOh! when are you guys going to get married and have baby's?!?!" my response... "Well we kind of want to wait on those little things like money, stability, and knowing that I'm not going to fucking murder him when I'm having his child. I don't know about you but when I plan on bringing a life into this world, I don't want to have any surprises about my spouse. Call me crazy but I think its called being a responsible adult." Usually those people don't talk to us after that... Goal achieved. I have been with my boyfriend for almost 5 years. Waiting on marriage and children until we KNOW that we are ready. However everyone has found it necessary to ask us (I would guess from 5 months into the relationship) “OOh! when are you guys going to get married and have baby’s?!?!” my response… “Well we kind of want to wait on those little things like money, stability, and knowing that I’m not going to fucking murder him when I’m having his child. I don’t know about you but when I plan on bringing a life into this world, I don’t want to have any surprises about my spouse. Call me crazy but I think its called being a responsible adult.”
Usually those people don’t talk to us after that… Goal achieved.

]]> By: Jason http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9313 Jason Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:54:58 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9313 Sayeth the second wife. Silly. Sayeth the second wife. Silly.

]]> By: spriteless http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9301 spriteless Sun, 27 Jan 2008 06:45:52 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9301 The way I see it, if a couple has already decided to bring their mistake into the world, there's no reason to compound the problems by getting into a situation neither of them want. Marriage is about as legally binding as horse shit nowadays, but it still represents a commitment in alot of people's minds (and the judgment of their families) that they aren't able to live up to. An unhappy marriage can lead to a messy divorce. If 2 people drive each other crazy, it's better for them to remain friends than move in together. The kid would be better off with separate but sane parents than a couple at each other's neck. This is coming from someone who got the 'best' of both situations described by V. My married parents were progressively more hostile while I was growing up, and I participated in my dad's second marriage. The way I see it, if a couple has already decided to bring their mistake into the world, there’s no reason to compound the problems by getting into a situation neither of them want. Marriage is about as legally binding as horse shit nowadays, but it still represents a commitment in alot of people’s minds (and the judgment of their families) that they aren’t able to live up to.

An unhappy marriage can lead to a messy divorce. If 2 people drive each other crazy, it’s better for them to remain friends than move in together. The kid would be better off with separate but sane parents than a couple at each other’s neck.

This is coming from someone who got the ‘best’ of both situations described by V. My married parents were progressively more hostile while I was growing up, and I participated in my dad’s second marriage.

]]> By: Olb http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9298 Olb Sun, 27 Jan 2008 05:36:36 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9298 There's really different topics falling under this... and really, it doesn't matter if you have a kid then get married or get married then have a kid. It all falls back to how responsible the people involved are. If they're irresponsible, either way will fail. If they're responsible, either way will succeed. There's also the topic of the "traditional" family of 2 parents, which doesn't guarantee any success, but likelihood is higher. And marriage and taking time before having a child ensures that they actually get along. There's also the single-parent, which is obviously going to be a bit harder, and the potential for the whole child-support thing which V is against. But then there's the whole village raising the child thing, where in a more collective society, the entire family would be chipping in and things will be done differently. Then there's the issue of "Why the fuck are they having a kid in the first place?" and the "babies are accessories". Which they may or may not be thinking. Wanting one is probably a natural thing (otherwise we'd be extinct), but wanting one raised well probably not so much. So yeah, many factors come into play, not just "Which came first, the marriage, or the baby?" There’s really different topics falling under this… and really, it doesn’t matter if you have a kid then get married or get married then have a kid. It all falls back to how responsible the people involved are.

If they’re irresponsible, either way will fail. If they’re responsible, either way will succeed.

There’s also the topic of the “traditional” family of 2 parents, which doesn’t guarantee any success, but likelihood is higher. And marriage and taking time before having a child ensures that they actually get along. There’s also the single-parent, which is obviously going to be a bit harder, and the potential for the whole child-support thing which V is against. But then there’s the whole village raising the child thing, where in a more collective society, the entire family would be chipping in and things will be done differently.

Then there’s the issue of “Why the fuck are they having a kid in the first place?” and the “babies are accessories”. Which they may or may not be thinking. Wanting one is probably a natural thing (otherwise we’d be extinct), but wanting one raised well probably not so much.

So yeah, many factors come into play, not just “Which came first, the marriage, or the baby?”

]]> By: Angelika http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9276 Angelika Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:25:37 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9276 I would not call you crazy, but narrow-minded and ignorant! Not wanting to get married BECAUSE of the pregnancy has nothing to do with diminishing the commitment level on marriage! You know, people are perfectly happy just being together and they might not need a piece of paper telling them that now they are a couple, because what they say to each other has greater value to them than what others hear them say in church! And if they do get married after 20 years of being together, so what? So what if their children take part in the wedding ceremony? That's the societal stupidity that tells you that first you should get married and only then you should have children, not the other way around. I admire anybody who goes against that "requirement" that society imposes upon us!! You contradict yourself a lot! I would not call you crazy, but narrow-minded and ignorant! Not wanting to get married BECAUSE of the pregnancy has nothing to do with diminishing the commitment level on marriage! You know, people are perfectly happy just being together and they might not need a piece of paper telling them that now they are a couple, because what they say to each other has greater value to them than what others hear them say in church! And if they do get married after 20 years of being together, so what? So what if their children take part in the wedding ceremony? That’s the societal stupidity that tells you that first you should get married and only then you should have children, not the other way around. I admire anybody who goes against that “requirement” that society imposes upon us!!
You contradict yourself a lot!

]]> By: Major Beef http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9273 Major Beef Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:39:22 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9273 This is the best post from V in a long time. I think folks who believe they can have kids and then "figure out the rest" are delusional and lying to themselves, and I wish people would stop having kids to accessorize with their handbags and the cars they can't afford. There is a great movie (well, the premise was good anyway) called 'Idiocracy', which is about how the ignorant and irresponsible are breeding at a faster rate than the folks willing to wait 3-5 years - sometime more - before having children. It is a funny look at how society is DEVOLVING, and traces it to the fucking ignorant and irresponsible who are out breeding us. Aneyah and E... did you not think of getting married FIRST, before having unprotected sex at the very least? Wouldn't that be the SURE FIRE WAY of ensuring your baby's daddy ISN'T an asshole? This is the best post from V in a long time. I think folks who believe they can have kids and then “figure out the rest” are delusional and lying to themselves, and I wish people would stop having kids to accessorize with their handbags and the cars they can’t afford.

There is a great movie (well, the premise was good anyway) called ‘Idiocracy’, which is about how the ignorant and irresponsible are breeding at a faster rate than the folks willing to wait 3-5 years - sometime more - before having children. It is a funny look at how society is DEVOLVING, and traces it to the fucking ignorant and irresponsible who are out breeding us.

Aneyah and E… did you not think of getting married FIRST, before having unprotected sex at the very least? Wouldn’t that be the SURE FIRE WAY of ensuring your baby’s daddy ISN’T an asshole?

]]> By: coolfrequency http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9271 coolfrequency Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:44:30 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-just-say-%e2%80%98no%e2%80%99-to-bastard-children/#comment-9271 you've gotten meaner lately, V you’ve gotten meaner lately, V

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