Comments on: VA: It’s in the Genes http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/ violentacres.com feedback site Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:41:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: olb http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4721 olb Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:20:08 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/06/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4721 "I am no different." You are no different, except for: "I have more money. I have more time to myself. I have an education." Now, what you do with those is your choice. “I am no different.”

You are no different, except for:

“I have more money. I have more time to myself. I have an education.”

Now, what you do with those is your choice.

]]> By: Jenn http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4720 Jenn Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:07:48 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/06/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4720 There are thousands of years of history of people who leave behind their homes and families for better lives. Many of them go back to do what they can. Keronian is right - and so are u. You are no different, in that you had the same difficult childhood. But u made good and u can make amends (without judgment!) not to make u feel better about yourself, but to prove to yourself that u are not afraid to face your past. U wrote a very - shall we say - strong piece about silly women who have babies without thinking, didnt u? U are afraid to voice your sometimes spot-on judgments to your friends - maybe u shldnt. THe question is, who is the real u? The cantankerous persona behind your blog who isnt afraid of telling it like it is - but only to people who dont know who u are - or a cantankerous person who isn't afraid of telling it like it is, period? There are thousands of years of history of people who leave behind their homes and families for better lives. Many of them go back to do what they can. Keronian is right - and so are u. You are no different, in that you had the same difficult childhood. But u made good and u can make amends (without judgment!) not to make u feel better about yourself, but to prove to yourself that u are not afraid to face your past. U wrote a very - shall we say - strong piece about silly women who have babies without thinking, didnt u? U are afraid to voice your sometimes spot-on judgments to your friends - maybe u shldnt. THe question is, who is the real u? The cantankerous persona behind your blog who isnt afraid of telling it like it is - but only to people who dont know who u are - or a cantankerous person who isn’t afraid of telling it like it is, period?

]]> By: reflex http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4719 reflex Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:29:28 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/06/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4719 Viola, I agree, I'm not trying to berate doc. I've tried to make that clear. I'm not trying judge the value of docs reactions, and I'm certainly not asking for the doc to stop the comments. I'm also not saying we are all exactly the same. That's obviously not the case. We each have an individual consciousness, but our similarities are sometimes, if not often, disregarded to the detriment of all... to benefit the individual. Necessary? Maybe. But placing too much emphasis on the "individual," while denying our similarities, can lead to deep misunderstanding between groups of people who may not really be that different. Viola,

I agree, I’m not trying to berate doc. I’ve tried to make that clear. I’m not trying judge the value of docs reactions, and I’m certainly not asking for the doc to stop the comments.

I’m also not saying we are all exactly the same. That’s obviously not the case. We each have an individual consciousness, but our similarities are sometimes, if not often, disregarded to the detriment of all… to benefit the individual. Necessary? Maybe. But placing too much emphasis on the “individual,” while denying our similarities, can lead to deep misunderstanding between groups of people who may not really be that different.

]]> By: SteveJ http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4718 SteveJ Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:04:34 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/06/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4718 From a story point of view this would be the perfect place to stop. Everything from now on will be "yes but" or "oh and". Everyone else here has covered the major points..... it's not too late to invest in these people and help them break the cycle, and unless you are in good shape you can't help someone else. The story of all those kids you used to know is only a closed book if you choose for it to be.... and it sure beats donating to some anonymous charity with a far away goal that you have no real contact with. From a story point of view this would be the perfect place to stop. Everything from now on will be “yes but” or “oh and”.

Everyone else here has covered the major points….. it’s not too late to invest in these people and help them break the cycle, and unless you are in good shape you can’t help someone else. The story of all those kids you used to know is only a closed book if you choose for it to be…. and it sure beats donating to some anonymous charity with a far away goal that you have no real contact with.

]]> By: Voyeur http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4716 Voyeur Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:07:48 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/06/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4716 On airplanes they say to place the oxygen mask on your face before your children's. If you're passed out, you're not doing anyone any good. Save yourself to save others. On airplanes they say to place the oxygen mask on your face before your children’s. If you’re passed out, you’re not doing anyone any good.

Save yourself to save others.

]]> By: Viola http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4714 Viola Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:19:36 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/06/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4714 @Reflex, [Sorry, I've been lurking a while and I needed to put my two cents in] sure, doc was a bit... brash... but his reaction is valuable. He does have a point. And besides, if every comment were an "Omg pat pat console" type deal, there would be nothing good to argue about. I would have offered to spend some time with her. If you feel so bad about leaving them, V, maybe that'd do you some good. Help out with the kids, explain what happened when you left, etc. It would be a nice gesture, anyway. @Reflex, [Sorry, I’ve been lurking a while and I needed to put my two cents in] sure, doc was a bit… brash… but his reaction is valuable. He does have a point. And besides, if every comment were an “Omg pat pat console” type deal, there would be nothing good to argue about.

I would have offered to spend some time with her. If you feel so bad about leaving them, V, maybe that’d do you some good. Help out with the kids, explain what happened when you left, etc. It would be a nice gesture, anyway.

]]> By: Wolfyx http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4712 Wolfyx Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:18:42 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/06/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4712 V, even though it may look like it, you were not really their parents, and i know the moral duty was there, but you couldn't forsake your own life for the good of theirs. At one moment in time, you had no choice but to move on and start over. Don't accuse yourself that you're no different, had you never interfered, God knows if those children would have even survived till now. V, even though it may look like it, you were not really their parents, and i know the moral duty was there, but you couldn’t forsake your own life for the good of theirs. At one moment in time, you had no choice but to move on and start over. Don’t accuse yourself that you’re no different, had you never interfered, God knows if those children would have even survived till now.

]]> By: kibrika http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4711 kibrika Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:08:29 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/06/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4711 I like Jakob:) Anywais, I disagree with no15. Even though we are similar, we can never know how any other person feels or thinks or percievs the World, therefore we are each on our own and therefore we can objectively feel unique. I like Jakob:)
Anywais, I disagree with no15. Even though we are similar, we can never know how any other person feels or thinks or percievs the World, therefore we are each on our own and therefore we can objectively feel unique.

]]> By: reflex http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4710 reflex Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:52:38 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/06/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4710 @13... do you really think there are "great" differences between individual people? We are all made of the same basic materials.... Are we not? Different behaviors, likes, dislikes are one thing, but individualism is, in my humble opinion, more of an illusion or misunderstanding than an objective reality. We have been brainwashed to think we are each "completely" unique individuals, but when it comes down to it... we are of the same "hive" mentality. WORLDWIDE. Human nature is and always will be human nature. @13… do you really think there are “great” differences between individual people? We are all made of the same basic materials…. Are we not? Different behaviors, likes, dislikes are one thing, but individualism is, in my humble opinion, more of an illusion or misunderstanding than an objective reality.

We have been brainwashed to think we are each “completely” unique individuals, but when it comes down to it… we are of the same “hive” mentality. WORLDWIDE. Human nature is and always will be human nature.

]]> By: reflex http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4709 reflex Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:42:18 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/06/va-it%e2%80%99s-in-the-genes/#comment-4709 Doc... what are you trying to achieve here? Just askin'.... I can't berate you because obviously you've had your own experiences, BUT... your generalizations are a bit, may I say, harsh and rude to say the least. Oh, I forgot. I am one of those "manginas" that doesn't unserstand "anything" in your words. Please explain. I've yet to hear a good explanation of that assertion. Just sayin'. Doc… what are you trying to achieve here? Just askin’…. I can’t berate you because obviously you’ve had your own experiences, BUT… your generalizations are a bit, may I say, harsh and rude to say the least. Oh, I forgot. I am one of those “manginas” that doesn’t unserstand “anything” in your words. Please explain. I’ve yet to hear a good explanation of that assertion. Just sayin’.

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