Comments on: VA: I’m Tired of Bulimia Being the New Black http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/ violentacres.com feedback site Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:41:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Elizabeth http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-6120 Elizabeth Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:30:39 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/10/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-6120 <b>Robin</b>: Oh yes it is -- that is exactly what your friend meant. She said failing to wax (or whatever) would make her feel "left out" -- of what group? Other women, of course. It's a fairly standard sitcom gag for men to not notice when a woman's had a haircut or bought a new outfit, but there is some truth to it. It's not that men are oblivious, but unless they work in the beauty industry or are fond of makeup themselves, they probably won't notice the finer details of a woman's toilette. The general impression is much more important than the nitpicky stuff. Robin: Oh yes it is — that is exactly what your friend meant. She said failing to wax (or whatever) would make her feel “left out” — of what group? Other women, of course.

It’s a fairly standard sitcom gag for men to not notice when a woman’s had a haircut or bought a new outfit, but there is some truth to it. It’s not that men are oblivious, but unless they work in the beauty industry or are fond of makeup themselves, they probably won’t notice the finer details of a woman’s toilette. The general impression is much more important than the nitpicky stuff.

]]> By: Robin http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5920 Robin Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:21:28 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/10/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5920 Pasketti... I'm aware of that theory and intentionally left gender pronouns out of my summary. However, I'm still not fully convinced, can anybody give me any more compelling evidence? One female friend told me that it was almost like an arms race, girls had to do things like wax their eyebrows because they'd feel left out if they were the only ones without waxed eyebrows... not exactly a case of women dressing for women. Pasketti… I’m aware of that theory and intentionally left gender pronouns out of my summary. However, I’m still not fully convinced, can anybody give me any more compelling evidence? One female friend told me that it was almost like an arms race, girls had to do things like wax their eyebrows because they’d feel left out if they were the only ones without waxed eyebrows… not exactly a case of women dressing for women.

]]> By: MajorBeef http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5916 MajorBeef Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:13:26 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/10/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5916 Yes. I know my wife worries about the way she looks occassionally. But like Pasketti said, she frets because she wants to look good in front of her peers... other women, not menfolk. At least that's what she tells me! ~MB Yes. I know my wife worries about the way she looks occassionally. But like Pasketti said, she frets because she wants to look good in front of her peers… other women, not menfolk. At least that’s what she tells me!

~MB

]]> By: Nancy http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5915 Nancy Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:35:16 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/10/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5915 Actually they mostly do it for themselves. Once again V takes the extreme - she seems to only have extremists among her female acquaintance - and applies it across the board. While I love her stuff her gross generalisations sometimes drive me wild. Animals groom themselves to put forward their best appearance to attract a mate and to establish their status in the pecking order, humans are no different. It only becomes a problem when it becomes obsessive to the point of stressing over minor 'flaws' and going to absurd lengths to overcompensate and letting it affect your life and self-esteem at a profound level. Most of us have days when we look in the mirror and wish we hadn't, pull on our jeans and curse that last doughnut because we can't fasten them...Then we shrug it off, do our best to highlight our good points and play down the bad, it doesn't make us obsessive, vain, vapid or otherwise flawed just human. I don't consider the wearing of contact lenses, dying your hair, using moisturiser or applying a little make up to be major crimes against reality in the scheme of things. I'm not forcing anyone else to do it and seriously some days I'm doing you a favour by NOT going out in public 'au naturel' and I wish more people would do me the same courtesy. The aggressively "I don't care about my appearance I'm so freaking happy and at peace with my looks" brigade at one end of the spectrum are almost as bad as the botoxed, plasticised Joan Rivers brigade at the other. I do not need to see your hairy armpits and the pasty jelly rolls spilling out over and under your spaghetti strap cut off shirt or the blotchy purple cellulite on your thunder thighs when you insist on wearing Daisy Dukes or your greasy grey combover of stringy unwashed and uncut locks with sweaty pink scalp show-through when, or your pus-filled zits and blackheads which a little concelaer under foundation would cover up nicely and your crooked yellow and black teeth when a little cosmetic dentistry could correct them. Frankly whatever people do to themselves if it makes them happy and feel better about themselves and it saves me from vomiting in my mouth then where's the harm? Actually they mostly do it for themselves. Once again V takes the extreme - she seems to only have extremists among her female acquaintance - and applies it across the board. While I love her stuff her gross generalisations sometimes drive me wild. Animals groom themselves to put forward their best appearance to attract a mate and to establish their status in the pecking order, humans are no different. It only becomes a problem when it becomes obsessive to the point of stressing over minor ‘flaws’ and going to absurd lengths to overcompensate and letting it affect your life and self-esteem at a profound level.

Most of us have days when we look in the mirror and wish we hadn’t, pull on our jeans and curse that last doughnut because we can’t fasten them…Then we shrug it off, do our best to highlight our good points and play down the bad, it doesn’t make us obsessive, vain, vapid or otherwise flawed just human. I don’t consider the wearing of contact lenses, dying your hair, using moisturiser or applying a little make up to be major crimes against reality in the scheme of things. I’m not forcing anyone else to do it and seriously some days I’m doing you a favour by NOT going out in public ‘au naturel’ and I wish more people would do me the same courtesy.

The aggressively “I don’t care about my appearance I’m so freaking happy and at peace with my looks” brigade at one end of the spectrum are almost as bad as the botoxed, plasticised Joan Rivers brigade at the other. I do not need to see your hairy armpits and the pasty jelly rolls spilling out over and under your spaghetti strap cut off shirt or the blotchy purple cellulite on your thunder thighs when you insist on wearing Daisy Dukes or your greasy grey combover of stringy unwashed and uncut locks with sweaty pink scalp show-through when, or your pus-filled zits and blackheads which a little concelaer under foundation would cover up nicely and your crooked yellow and black teeth when a little cosmetic dentistry could correct them.

Frankly whatever people do to themselves if it makes them happy and feel better about themselves and it saves me from vomiting in my mouth then where’s the harm?

]]> By: Pasketti http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5914 Pasketti Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:58:59 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/10/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5914 Robin: "Women spend so much time on their appearance because they have such horrible personalities that they couldn’t sustain or get into a real relationship by any means other than physical attraction." Women do not spend time on their appearance for men. Men don't care about that very much. Really, we don't. They mostly do it for other women. Robin: “Women spend so much time on their appearance because they have such horrible personalities that they couldn’t sustain or get into a real relationship by any means other than physical attraction.”

Women do not spend time on their appearance for men. Men don’t care about that very much. Really, we don’t.

They mostly do it for other women.

]]> By: Pasketti http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5913 Pasketti Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:50:40 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/10/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5913 Elizabeth says: "Women who express confidence in their bodies are subject to insults and criticism." This is true, but only as part of something else: "Anyone who expresses confidence in anything about themselves is subject to insults and criticism." Some people can only feel better about themselves by making other people look worse. So when they see someone that they feel compares favorably to them, they have to belittle them. It's human nature, not a vast patriarchal conspiracy. I'm not saying it's good, it just is. My sister-in-law does this to my wife all the time. It annoyed me until I realized what was going on, now it makes me vaguely sad. My wife, being smarter than me, had figured this out years ago. Elizabeth says: “Women who express confidence in their bodies are subject to insults and criticism.”

This is true, but only as part of something else: “Anyone who expresses confidence in anything about themselves is subject to insults and criticism.”

Some people can only feel better about themselves by making other people look worse. So when they see someone that they feel compares favorably to them, they have to belittle them. It’s human nature, not a vast patriarchal conspiracy. I’m not saying it’s good, it just is. My sister-in-law does this to my wife all the time. It annoyed me until I realized what was going on, now it makes me vaguely sad. My wife, being smarter than me, had figured this out years ago.

]]> By: munki http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5910 munki Tue, 09 Oct 2007 07:40:38 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/10/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5910 Robin: The black in the title references the way various fashion magazines try to push a certain color as the new "it" color of the season. Robin:
The black in the title references the way various fashion magazines try to push a certain color as the new “it” color of the season.

]]> By: Lona http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5908 Lona Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:49:57 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/10/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5908 @Jenn ~ Rather than be insulted that actually cracked me up, thanks for the laugh. @Jenn ~ Rather than be insulted that actually cracked me up, thanks for the laugh.

]]> By: Robin http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5907 Robin Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:23:57 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/10/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5907 I liked the article, but here's a quick summation that I think V would appreciate. Women spend so much time on their appearance because they have such horrible personalities that they couldn't sustain or get into a real relationship by any means other than physical attraction. I liked the article, but here’s a quick summation that I think V would appreciate.

Women spend so much time on their appearance because they have such horrible personalities that they couldn’t sustain or get into a real relationship by any means other than physical attraction.

]]> By: Robin http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5906 Robin Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:19:02 +0000 http://www.violentacrestalk.com/2007/10/va-i%e2%80%99m-tired-of-bulimia-being-the-new-black/#comment-5906 Can anybody explain the article title? I don't understand what it's supposed to mean. What is the significance of the color black? Can anybody explain the article title? I don’t understand what it’s supposed to mean. What is the significance of the color black?

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