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	<title>Comments on: VA: Grandma Rose Was Crazy</title>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-grandma-rose-was-crazy/#comment-5585</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coolfrequency - considering the pattern, I'd say that Grandma Rose abused V's mother. "Why?" ...I don't know. Maybe she's yet another example of abused children growing up to be abusers. Maybe it's nothing to do with her childhood, and she just went nuts at some point. I don't know - and, really, there's no way for me to find out.

The locks of hair? I'd say they're signs of physical abuse. Probably "punishment" for something (not seeming thankful enough for the pretty clothes and nice dolls, maybe?).
And no, Grandma Rose didn't cut V's hair; V worried she would, though, and took steps to avoid it.

As for the "why cut V's mother's hair?" - because she could. Probably there was some twisted sort of logic to it for her - but essentially...it was just because she could.

And, much as it might be interesting to know more about V's mom's childhood? That'd involve V finding out more and being willing to share it. The latter, she's proven she's willing to do - I have no clue about the former, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coolfrequency - considering the pattern, I&#8217;d say that Grandma Rose abused V&#8217;s mother. &#8220;Why?&#8221; &#8230;I don&#8217;t know. Maybe she&#8217;s yet another example of abused children growing up to be abusers. Maybe it&#8217;s nothing to do with her childhood, and she just went nuts at some point. I don&#8217;t know - and, really, there&#8217;s no way for me to find out.</p>
<p>The locks of hair? I&#8217;d say they&#8217;re signs of physical abuse. Probably &#8220;punishment&#8221; for something (not seeming thankful enough for the pretty clothes and nice dolls, maybe?).<br />
And no, Grandma Rose didn&#8217;t cut V&#8217;s hair; V worried she would, though, and took steps to avoid it.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;why cut V&#8217;s mother&#8217;s hair?&#8221; - because she could. Probably there was some twisted sort of logic to it for her - but essentially&#8230;it was just because she could.</p>
<p>And, much as it might be interesting to know more about V&#8217;s mom&#8217;s childhood? That&#8217;d involve V finding out more and being willing to share it. The latter, she&#8217;s proven she&#8217;s willing to do - I have no clue about the former, though.</p>
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		<title>By: coolfrequency</title>
		<link>http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-grandma-rose-was-crazy/#comment-5540</link>
		<dc:creator>coolfrequency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 12:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but...but...but...what did grandma rose do to V's mother?  What do the locks of hair mean?  Her grandma cut V's hair?  Why?  Under what circumstances?  

I want to know more about what happened in V's mom's childhood!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but&#8230;but&#8230;but&#8230;what did grandma rose do to V&#8217;s mother?  What do the locks of hair mean?  Her grandma cut V&#8217;s hair?  Why?  Under what circumstances?  </p>
<p>I want to know more about what happened in V&#8217;s mom&#8217;s childhood!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-grandma-rose-was-crazy/#comment-5537</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 02:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S., Do guys get a pass from crazy mom's when there's a daughter in the picture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S., Do guys get a pass from crazy mom&#8217;s when there&#8217;s a daughter in the picture?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-grandma-rose-was-crazy/#comment-5536</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 02:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One batshit crazy grandma for V, One Batshit Crazy grammy for me.  Thank God my mom, who is quite an interesting study herself, didn't pass on all the crazy shit to me.  My sister got part of it though....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One batshit crazy grandma for V, One Batshit Crazy grammy for me.  Thank God my mom, who is quite an interesting study herself, didn&#8217;t pass on all the crazy shit to me.  My sister got part of it though&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-grandma-rose-was-crazy/#comment-5533</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wolfyx
"I must admit i didn’t see the whole ‘granny is nuts’ thing comming after reading the first part of the story..."

I did, na na na na na. Sorry only kidding but couldn't resist being a bit smug it's not often I get to anticipate what's coming next with V she has more twists and turns than the average corkscrew. Guess that's why I like her, she changes it up and it's not just a 'one trick pony' kind of blog. I have to admit to liking her little bio snippets but I do like her social commentaries too, it's all good. :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolfyx<br />
&#8220;I must admit i didn’t see the whole ‘granny is nuts’ thing comming after reading the first part of the story&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I did, na na na na na. Sorry only kidding but couldn&#8217;t resist being a bit smug it&#8217;s not often I get to anticipate what&#8217;s coming next with V she has more twists and turns than the average corkscrew. Guess that&#8217;s why I like her, she changes it up and it&#8217;s not just a &#8216;one trick pony&#8217; kind of blog. I have to admit to liking her little bio snippets but I do like her social commentaries too, it&#8217;s all good. :-D</p>
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		<title>By: SunSpotBaby</title>
		<link>http://www.violentacrestalk.com/va-grandma-rose-was-crazy/#comment-5532</link>
		<dc:creator>SunSpotBaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if V has ever confronted her mother?  As an adult that is.  I've read most of her stuff (if not all) and I don't think she has.  I had NIGHTMARES for years, up until my mid 20s about a foster mother I had, and one day after having had bad dreams for three nights in a row about her, I thought "Hey - she might still be around.  I'm going to look her up and ask her why in the hell she did all those cruel things to me, just a little girl of 5 and 6."  Lo and behold, I did track her down and when I called the phone number I had gotten, her husband answered.  When I asked for his wife and told him who I was, he said, "Oh, she died about five years ago."  I just told him thanks and hung up.  Apparently all I needed was the "intent" to confront her, because I never, ever had another dream about her - bad or otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if V has ever confronted her mother?  As an adult that is.  I&#8217;ve read most of her stuff (if not all) and I don&#8217;t think she has.  I had NIGHTMARES for years, up until my mid 20s about a foster mother I had, and one day after having had bad dreams for three nights in a row about her, I thought &#8220;Hey - she might still be around.  I&#8217;m going to look her up and ask her why in the hell she did all those cruel things to me, just a little girl of 5 and 6.&#8221;  Lo and behold, I did track her down and when I called the phone number I had gotten, her husband answered.  When I asked for his wife and told him who I was, he said, &#8220;Oh, she died about five years ago.&#8221;  I just told him thanks and hung up.  Apparently all I needed was the &#8220;intent&#8221; to confront her, because I never, ever had another dream about her - bad or otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfyx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must admit i didn't see the whole 'granny is nuts' thing comming after reading the first part of the story, but hey it was a good read nonetheless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must admit i didn&#8217;t see the whole &#8216;granny is nuts&#8217; thing comming after reading the first part of the story, but hey it was a good read nonetheless</p>
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		<title>By: richbh</title>
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		<dc:creator>richbh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know - after many years of watching the psychos in my family tear each other apart I can only be grateful that I had the prescience of mind to distance myself from them as early as I could.

Who knows why people are the way they are? Environment certainly has a lot to do with it, but so does the genetics involved in personality - wherever the hell that comes from. Some people are born nice, others are born assholes. That's just the way it is. It's a crap shoot, and the best parents can do is try to love the assholes as much as they love the angels.

And the best we can do as individuals is learn to love ourselves - in spite of how others might see us. I think perhaps the assholes of the world just never learned to like themselves.

But some people are so narrow minded and self centered that they never even dream of how their nasty behavior affect others.

It takes all kinds - it seems V just got a large helping of the bad kinds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know - after many years of watching the psychos in my family tear each other apart I can only be grateful that I had the prescience of mind to distance myself from them as early as I could.</p>
<p>Who knows why people are the way they are? Environment certainly has a lot to do with it, but so does the genetics involved in personality - wherever the hell that comes from. Some people are born nice, others are born assholes. That&#8217;s just the way it is. It&#8217;s a crap shoot, and the best parents can do is try to love the assholes as much as they love the angels.</p>
<p>And the best we can do as individuals is learn to love ourselves - in spite of how others might see us. I think perhaps the assholes of the world just never learned to like themselves.</p>
<p>But some people are so narrow minded and self centered that they never even dream of how their nasty behavior affect others.</p>
<p>It takes all kinds - it seems V just got a large helping of the bad kinds.</p>
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		<title>By: Sami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post might be from part to part slightly off-topic, but anyways:

I am not a big fan of these personal issues and the family saga she wrote couple months back. I prefer the stories that teach about us humans. And yesterday I was about to reply to the post, but I remembered she mentioned in her previous post that a person is a product of the enviroment. I couldn't agree more.

This stopped me from replying and to wait for more info about Rose. Could be that Rose has created a monster out of V's mother and might be V has managed to break the cycle. Perhaps.

In any case, as I cancelled my yesterday's reply I started to think wether there might be some similar technique that I sometimes use on some forums. You write a post, but leave some info out and promise it later. Then when people have jumped to conclusions you post the rest of the info. Just to see how people jump to conclusions with limited info even though they've been promised more background later. (And believe you me, people have, do and always will jump to conlcusions without all the relevant info.) Part of me thinks it was a good discussion that ensued from the last post, part of me is disappointed that it didn't go to redicilous debate and a slap in the face by today's post.

But still, for the love of Pete, V, stop family sagas and get back writing moral stories*! I want my entertainment! (Yes, this last bit is written provocatively on purpose.)

* With a moral story I mean more to the wide audience, and not only for those who happen to have similary abusive mother, same kind of family background and such. Too narrow example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post might be from part to part slightly off-topic, but anyways:</p>
<p>I am not a big fan of these personal issues and the family saga she wrote couple months back. I prefer the stories that teach about us humans. And yesterday I was about to reply to the post, but I remembered she mentioned in her previous post that a person is a product of the enviroment. I couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
<p>This stopped me from replying and to wait for more info about Rose. Could be that Rose has created a monster out of V&#8217;s mother and might be V has managed to break the cycle. Perhaps.</p>
<p>In any case, as I cancelled my yesterday&#8217;s reply I started to think wether there might be some similar technique that I sometimes use on some forums. You write a post, but leave some info out and promise it later. Then when people have jumped to conclusions you post the rest of the info. Just to see how people jump to conclusions with limited info even though they&#8217;ve been promised more background later. (And believe you me, people have, do and always will jump to conlcusions without all the relevant info.) Part of me thinks it was a good discussion that ensued from the last post, part of me is disappointed that it didn&#8217;t go to redicilous debate and a slap in the face by today&#8217;s post.</p>
<p>But still, for the love of Pete, V, stop family sagas and get back writing moral stories*! I want my entertainment! (Yes, this last bit is written provocatively on purpose.)</p>
<p>* With a moral story I mean more to the wide audience, and not only for those who happen to have similary abusive mother, same kind of family background and such. Too narrow example.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathaclysm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathaclysm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After speculation on how part two of this story turned out, it's difficult to read the truth.  I had kinda hoped to hear that the atrocities V's mother carried out on her were the actions of a lone crazy woman.  But I knew that usually wasn't the case, and it's now obvious that V's mother suffered as a child as well, just she never escaped the cycle.   It's hard watching the people around you who are supposed to be caring for you have such a hard time caring for themselves.  Some people wind up playing the victim roll for the rest of their lives.   It is good to be able to tell by reading V's stories that she has escaped the cycle herself.  

I would tell V that if she's still having difficulty dealing with these problems, there are books &#38; groups out there... but I really don't think V is that type of person.  I tried therapy, and I decided I didn't like the idea of paying someone to listen to my problems.  And I tried support groups, but often found a lot of people wallowing in their misery or trying to make their parent better instead of dealing with the reality that their parent never really was a parent to begin with.  I'm sure V has enough support from those she choses to call family &#38; enough strength to live past the horrors she suffered as a child, and the strength to avoid those people/situations that trigger her fears &#38; bad memories.  

It's sad that I've read a lot of similar stories by people who's parents &#38; grandparents have personality disorders.  Not many have the guts to publish them so publicly as V has done, nor are they usually as eloquently written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After speculation on how part two of this story turned out, it&#8217;s difficult to read the truth.  I had kinda hoped to hear that the atrocities V&#8217;s mother carried out on her were the actions of a lone crazy woman.  But I knew that usually wasn&#8217;t the case, and it&#8217;s now obvious that V&#8217;s mother suffered as a child as well, just she never escaped the cycle.   It&#8217;s hard watching the people around you who are supposed to be caring for you have such a hard time caring for themselves.  Some people wind up playing the victim roll for the rest of their lives.   It is good to be able to tell by reading V&#8217;s stories that she has escaped the cycle herself.  </p>
<p>I would tell V that if she&#8217;s still having difficulty dealing with these problems, there are books &amp; groups out there&#8230; but I really don&#8217;t think V is that type of person.  I tried therapy, and I decided I didn&#8217;t like the idea of paying someone to listen to my problems.  And I tried support groups, but often found a lot of people wallowing in their misery or trying to make their parent better instead of dealing with the reality that their parent never really was a parent to begin with.  I&#8217;m sure V has enough support from those she choses to call family &amp; enough strength to live past the horrors she suffered as a child, and the strength to avoid those people/situations that trigger her fears &amp; bad memories.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad that I&#8217;ve read a lot of similar stories by people who&#8217;s parents &amp; grandparents have personality disorders.  Not many have the guts to publish them so publicly as V has done, nor are they usually as eloquently written.</p>
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