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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I uhm, worked at Wal-mart for four years... that place was fairly horrible in a number of ways... for the first 6 months I worked there, I busted my ass for no recognition

In fact the only recognition I ever tend to get at jobs is the recognition that I didn't do enough, no matter how much I do they find something...

So, I decided to use their own backwards ways against them, and it worked.

Basically, for the next 3 and a half years I only really worked the way they would want me to work when one of my bosses or snitching co-workers (i hate co-workers also) was around.

The bosses still pointed out whatever faults they could find, but ironically they always seemed to only need to point out one or two no matter the situation.

Mainly because my job at wal-mart wasn't in a structured work setting... they put me there and told me to "do whatever needs to be done that you see", and expected me to diligently bust my ass as hard as possible.

Well they didn't expect it, but it's what they would have liked the most. Unfortunatly, because they "expected it", you never got any recognition for doing so, however, they didn't really know what was my best work and what was my half-assed work... so I just did the half-assed work and it worked out fine for me.

I went from working my ass off for 8 hours, to reading a book for about 3 or 4 hours a day especially if I closed my department and no one was around... and, I stll got my scheduled raises, and I still got bitched at for missing this or that...

I suppose it's obvious what I'm getting at.

If the company wants to fuck you, then try and fuck the company at it's own game... notice established patterns and flaws and take advantage of them for yourself.

If you see that your boss takes a 25 minute break when she/he should only be taking a 15 minute break, see if you can get away with taking a 20 minute break, let em get used to it... increase the time to 21... 

be as PETTY as you can because you can derive enormous pleasure from any spiteful dime you feel you are getting for free.

Why do you deserve that free dime? Because if you worked twice as hard it would still only be a dime... you deserve it because your company is stupid, and it's stupidness can lead to your being taken advantage of unless you take advantage of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I uhm, worked at Wal-mart for four years&#8230; that place was fairly horrible in a number of ways&#8230; for the first 6 months I worked there, I busted my ass for no recognition</p>
<p>In fact the only recognition I ever tend to get at jobs is the recognition that I didn&#8217;t do enough, no matter how much I do they find something&#8230;</p>
<p>So, I decided to use their own backwards ways against them, and it worked.</p>
<p>Basically, for the next 3 and a half years I only really worked the way they would want me to work when one of my bosses or snitching co-workers (i hate co-workers also) was around.</p>
<p>The bosses still pointed out whatever faults they could find, but ironically they always seemed to only need to point out one or two no matter the situation.</p>
<p>Mainly because my job at wal-mart wasn&#8217;t in a structured work setting&#8230; they put me there and told me to &#8220;do whatever needs to be done that you see&#8221;, and expected me to diligently bust my ass as hard as possible.</p>
<p>Well they didn&#8217;t expect it, but it&#8217;s what they would have liked the most. Unfortunatly, because they &#8220;expected it&#8221;, you never got any recognition for doing so, however, they didn&#8217;t really know what was my best work and what was my half-assed work&#8230; so I just did the half-assed work and it worked out fine for me.</p>
<p>I went from working my ass off for 8 hours, to reading a book for about 3 or 4 hours a day especially if I closed my department and no one was around&#8230; and, I stll got my scheduled raises, and I still got bitched at for missing this or that&#8230;</p>
<p>I suppose it&#8217;s obvious what I&#8217;m getting at.</p>
<p>If the company wants to fuck you, then try and fuck the company at it&#8217;s own game&#8230; notice established patterns and flaws and take advantage of them for yourself.</p>
<p>If you see that your boss takes a 25 minute break when she/he should only be taking a 15 minute break, see if you can get away with taking a 20 minute break, let em get used to it&#8230; increase the time to 21&#8230; </p>
<p>be as PETTY as you can because you can derive enormous pleasure from any spiteful dime you feel you are getting for free.</p>
<p>Why do you deserve that free dime? Because if you worked twice as hard it would still only be a dime&#8230; you deserve it because your company is stupid, and it&#8217;s stupidness can lead to your being taken advantage of unless you take advantage of it.</p>
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		<title>By: RandomGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>RandomGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 19:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this article! I thoroughly enjoyed it! 

I recently quit my job. I gave them 3 weeks notice. My last 3 weeks were pure and utter hell. I wish that at the time I would have had the boldness to simply say "fuck you" and gotten the hell out sooner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this article! I thoroughly enjoyed it! </p>
<p>I recently quit my job. I gave them 3 weeks notice. My last 3 weeks were pure and utter hell. I wish that at the time I would have had the boldness to simply say &#8220;fuck you&#8221; and gotten the hell out sooner!</p>
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		<title>By: Lilian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that I'm agreeing more with V than not. You can certainly say that I am being compensated (at $8.75 and hour, no less) for 40 hours a week of my life, but that is 40 hours that I will never get back. They are taking something from me that I don't necessarily want to give them and they are keeping it. That is called stealing.

As high-minded as the idea of searching until you find The Right Job is, it's not practical. Few to no companies are going to want to negotiate about salary, and sometimes, as sucky as it is, you have to suck it up and deal with it. But if (and I suspect this was the case here) the shitty salary was not the only problem with the job, then yes, leave. And no, if a job treats you poorly, I see no reason to give them notice. There have only been one or two jobs which I have left abruptly - and they were for damn good reasons.

But I digress. The point is that I found this article bolstered my confidence a little. I fear I may be leaving my current job very soon, and were I not fond of the people I work with (not including my boss), and if I didn't know that by cutting out like that it would be them, not my bastard boss, that I'd be causing trouble for, I'd probably leave the same way V did.

So yes, Fuck Them.

But do it quietly, until you find the appropriate-sized rock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that I&#8217;m agreeing more with V than not. You can certainly say that I am being compensated (at $8.75 and hour, no less) for 40 hours a week of my life, but that is 40 hours that I will never get back. They are taking something from me that I don&#8217;t necessarily want to give them and they are keeping it. That is called stealing.</p>
<p>As high-minded as the idea of searching until you find The Right Job is, it&#8217;s not practical. Few to no companies are going to want to negotiate about salary, and sometimes, as sucky as it is, you have to suck it up and deal with it. But if (and I suspect this was the case here) the shitty salary was not the only problem with the job, then yes, leave. And no, if a job treats you poorly, I see no reason to give them notice. There have only been one or two jobs which I have left abruptly - and they were for damn good reasons.</p>
<p>But I digress. The point is that I found this article bolstered my confidence a little. I fear I may be leaving my current job very soon, and were I not fond of the people I work with (not including my boss), and if I didn&#8217;t know that by cutting out like that it would be them, not my bastard boss, that I&#8217;d be causing trouble for, I&#8217;d probably leave the same way V did.</p>
<p>So yes, Fuck Them.</p>
<p>But do it quietly, until you find the appropriate-sized rock.</p>
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		<title>By: JustAnotherBitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustAnotherBitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe her point was,

THEY TREAT YOU LIKE SHIT.

No one, regardless of holding a paycheck over your head or not, should be able to do that.  ESPECIALLY  if they are holding a paycheck over your head, because they are not supposed to be some smart mouthed kid off the street, but an adult with the responsibility. 

If you can't talk to your employees without looking down on them, then YOU should stop being an employer.  
Do not even think of bringing up what is wrong with them because YOU hired them and are just proving you screwed that up to.
Idiots.
Get a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe her point was,</p>
<p>THEY TREAT YOU LIKE SHIT.</p>
<p>No one, regardless of holding a paycheck over your head or not, should be able to do that.  ESPECIALLY  if they are holding a paycheck over your head, because they are not supposed to be some smart mouthed kid off the street, but an adult with the responsibility. </p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t talk to your employees without looking down on them, then YOU should stop being an employer.<br />
Do not even think of bringing up what is wrong with them because YOU hired them and are just proving you screwed that up to.<br />
Idiots.<br />
Get a job.</p>
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		<title>By: Emerild</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emerild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me too... it's not that bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me too&#8230; it&#8217;s not that bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandrine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandrine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V made me cry. 2 1/2 yrs in and I'm way beyond hiding under the covers; I'm ruined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V made me cry. 2 1/2 yrs in and I&#8217;m way beyond hiding under the covers; I&#8217;m ruined.</p>
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		<title>By: Emerild</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emerild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can work for me it'd be a lot more fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can work for me it&#8217;d be a lot more fun.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Gibbons: I uh, I don't like my job, and, uh, I don't think I'm gonna go anymore.
Joanna: You're just not gonna go?
Peter Gibbons: Yeah.
Joanna: Won't you get fired?
Peter Gibbons: I don't know, but I really don't like it, and, uh, I'm not gonna go.
Joanna: So you're gonna quit?
Peter Gibbons: Nuh-uh. Not really. Uh... I'm just gonna stop going.
Joanna: When did you decide all that?
Peter Gibbons: About an hour ago.
Joanna: Oh, really? About an hour ago... so you're gonna get another job?
Peter Gibbons: I don't think I'd like another job.
Joanna: Well, what are you going to do about money and bills and...
Peter Gibbons: You know, I've never really liked paying bills. I don't think I'm gonna do that, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Gibbons: I uh, I don&#8217;t like my job, and, uh, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m gonna go anymore.<br />
Joanna: You&#8217;re just not gonna go?<br />
Peter Gibbons: Yeah.<br />
Joanna: Won&#8217;t you get fired?<br />
Peter Gibbons: I don&#8217;t know, but I really don&#8217;t like it, and, uh, I&#8217;m not gonna go.<br />
Joanna: So you&#8217;re gonna quit?<br />
Peter Gibbons: Nuh-uh. Not really. Uh&#8230; I&#8217;m just gonna stop going.<br />
Joanna: When did you decide all that?<br />
Peter Gibbons: About an hour ago.<br />
Joanna: Oh, really? About an hour ago&#8230; so you&#8217;re gonna get another job?<br />
Peter Gibbons: I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d like another job.<br />
Joanna: Well, what are you going to do about money and bills and&#8230;<br />
Peter Gibbons: You know, I&#8217;ve never really liked paying bills. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m gonna do that, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog of Ultimate Power!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog of Ultimate Power!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Broken Employment Relationships...&lt;/strong&gt;

An article I read touched a nerve with me:
Don’t Treat Your Employers Better Than They Treat You 
When did working for an organization become a privilege?  Employers today seem to think that the lines of communications with their employers don&#8217;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Broken Employment Relationships&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>An article I read touched a nerve with me:<br />
Don’t Treat Your Employers Better Than They Treat You<br />
When did working for an organization become a privilege?  Employers today seem to think that the lines of communications with their employers don&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SunSpotBaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>SunSpotBaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On my current job, I stepped up to the plate and took on a secretary's work after she was suddenly let go (oops - no two weeks for her to look for a new job) and I was rewarded when the new secretary was hired with a $300 bonus.  But: it was taxed at 40% - so I actually got $180.....Wow.  The next time someone left, I actually told them up-front that if they couldn't make my bonus so that it came out to me after taxes to be $300, that I wasn't going to put myself out.  They didn't and I didn't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my current job, I stepped up to the plate and took on a secretary&#8217;s work after she was suddenly let go (oops - no two weeks for her to look for a new job) and I was rewarded when the new secretary was hired with a $300 bonus.  But: it was taxed at 40% - so I actually got $180&#8230;..Wow.  The next time someone left, I actually told them up-front that if they couldn&#8217;t make my bonus so that it came out to me after taxes to be $300, that I wasn&#8217;t going to put myself out.  They didn&#8217;t and I didn&#8217;t.</p>
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