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Aw….but Jada has CHANGED! She’s now Jada 2.0. Didn’t you know? She’s all spiritual and good n’ stuff. She didn’t mean to write that post yesterday giving props to Ryan Holiday. She was paying it forward by warning all us dumb internetters that the web really isn’t anonymous.
*snerk*
“Behave, people.”
My comments are being moderated so this one may not show up. Interesting to note I’m one of the first to comment.. everyone bored with it already? :)
With this latest ‘revelation’ post I’m sort of surprised there aren’t more people jumping at my throat for shoving all this on innocent third-party Hollie and Pat.
You know Pat, right? Her husband? The guy whose last 2 submissions to Digg were articles from.. well, do your own research and Google for [delaen pat toner].
You can also Google for [who110], Hollie’s online handle. Her admission during an AIM conversation projected her vote for ‘Most Obnoxious Blogger’ as an insult. After all, this anonymous author is getting paid for plagiarized material from Hollie’s MySpace profile - they certainly deserve the title, ‘Most Obnoxious Blogger’, right?
I wonder if the second vote for ‘Best Blog of All Time’ was meant to offset the karma or something.
Personally Jeff, I think you’re making stuff up. There is no proof that those handles belong to V and her husband. And even if they did, I still wouldn’t give a flying fuck.
I don’t care who V is or where she lives or what kind of dish detergent she uses…. Just quit it. If you’re wrong, you’re spilling all this shit about this Hollie person that - I’m willing to bet - she does not want to be spilled out for public viewing on the internet.
But let’s assume she is Hollie. Congratulations! You cracked the case! You’re teh hax0rs! Can we leave it alone now?
Very interesting that you bring up Who110. I was contacted by this person (I firmly believe that, if VA had any interest in contacting me, she would say who she was) via IM yesterday.
Quite the trollish conversation, and there’s speculation that Who110 is actually Jada.
I’m not saying that I believe that, but I don’t believe that Who110 is VA. If it’s this Hollie person who’s been ‘outed’ as being VA then she deserves the unwanted attention as she’s an idiot (my opinion based on my IM conversation with ‘her’ yesterday.)
If that person is VA she obviously doesn’t give a fuck that you know.
I think what you thought would happen was that as soon as she was “outed” she would suddenly snatch down all the mean stuff shes said and take down all the mean pictures.
Do you think the reason she did this today is because you didn’t prove it enough? I doubt it.
So stop posting it. No one fucking cares.
If I’m wrong, then the Toner family are free to sue me as they have my contact information. And twenty-thousand people now have theirs.
Mind you, I’d need all twenty-thousand of you to appear in court to testify your accounts.
Honestly, though - my beef is with the manipulated images. We’ve all put our quips in and I’ve read every single one but the fact of the matter is that I still believe the authors personal information is relevant due to the material they’ve posted online and there is overwhelming evidence that this website is simply a continuation from truthhurts.org.
If you could supply me a valid reason to stay silent, then I’ll consider it but otherwise your opinion is subjective and won’t have the impact you’re hoping to inflict on me.
Also, J: could you contact me via AIM or YIM? My handles ‘hoodmonkey84′. Thanks. :)
yuvu: Thanks for supplying context for my “your stupid opinion means jack-fucking-shit to me” thing above.
You’ve really helped prove my point and I owe you one.
Going away will be payment enough.
I’m sure VA appreciates the 20,000 new readers though.
“Furthermore, our financial books are completely transparent to the author. If you want to see the reports from the various ad agencies to verify how much your site is made, you are absolutely free to do so anytime.”
Just ask BC Woods.
“Author agrees that the Content will not be scandalous, libelous, an invasion of privacy, or otherwise unlawful.”
Just ask Ryan Holiday.
I have lots of images online but I don’t even post a photo of my cat in a public place if I haven’t first uploaded it to TinyPic. I don’t have images of any people, not even myself, at my blog. It’s not paranoia — it’s just GP.
Last year, at the request of a dear friend, I photographed her son’s birthday party. At the end of the party, the guests and their parents gave me their email addresses so I could invite them to view a private, password-protected album of party photos (which they would be able to print if they chose). I also gave them my own email address so there would be no questions or concerns when they received the invitation to view the album.
This is what people do when they want to share their children’s photos without worrying about where those photos will end up or how the images might be manipulated. They do not publish those photos at public websites and blogs.
So your beef is with the manipulated images? Who made those images freely and publicly available? Posting your child’s photos online may be perceived to be the modern-day equivalent of pulling out the family album for your guests, but there’s a big difference. When you do the latter, you know your audience and you have complete control over what happens to the images. (You probably aren’t showing that album to your neighbor’s “funny uncle,” either.)
I still believe the authors personal information is relevant due to the material they’ve posted online […]
Okay, help me out here. You don’t like what someone posted online, so you feel that it’s your duty to open that person to the possibility of harm by posting RL contact info of someone who may or may not be that person.
All righty then, what do you propose as a suitable punishment for the crime of bandwidth theft? Someone I know lost her job for hotlinking a photo in a bbs post when a self-appointed Moral Authority (who just happened to “have a beef” of rather long standing with the poster in question) saw the post and took it upon herself to email the subject of the photo and the poster’s employer to alert them.
Said Moral Authority was subsequently driven from an online community where she had been posting for seven or more years. Why? Because you don’t interfere with people’s real lives over an online dispute.
There is no justification for that.
Jeff, I don’t think anyone’s trying to suppress the info you found, it’s just that no one really cares that much about it or your inflated ego. I like VA, and her opinions are just that- opinions. I don’t really care about the minor biographical details she doesn’t care to give, true or not.
And your knowledge of the legal system could use a few major adjustments.
Remember, stab and twist. Stab *and* twist.=)
I read (skimmed) through a few of the mommyblogs. What tripe! I kept hearing Homer Simpson in my head saying “you take forever to say nothing.” Just because these chicks have the time, an internet connection, and can put noun together with a verb DOESN’T mean they should write.
And I’m sorry mommybloggers, but if you PUBLISH your pictures on the internet, don’t be shocked if others edit them for their (my) amusement. How do you think the brown-skinned guy with all the missing teeth feels? His hideous mug is on 1 million myspace pages in the comments section saying stuff like “too sexy!” or “give me a kiss!”. Besides mommybloggers, the only person who thinks your kids are cute are YOU and maybe your mom. Your husband hasn’t told you yet but he wants a paternity test.
I wish V didn’t get so sidetracked by all this who-said-what-about-who and whose-kids-look-weird drama stuff - most of the time she’s got clever insightful things to say, and then out of nowhere I’m scrolling through a whole page full of “this other person doesn’t like me and I don’t care”.
I liked the part where Myroid implied that Jada feeds her kid detergent.
Jeff,
Who gave you the tights and cape to be Captain Morality?
Today, photoshopping a kid and poop is bad…what’s next, a crusade against dead baby jokes?
By the way…what’s the difference between a bunch of babies and a trampoline?
You should take of your cleats when you jump on a trampoline.
*off
+10 points for Pablo.
wow, va really is a one trick pony. what’s next? making fun of another blogger? maybe she could pick a disabled blogger next? or a dying blogger. that would be so much fun, right?
why are all you asshats defending someone so childish? i hope someone tracks her down and beats the living piss out of her. she’s nothing more than a pathetic excuse for a person and no one speaks to her in her family because she’s an unlovable piece of shit.
Notice how V didn’t deny she was Hollie. She didn’t tell everyone to stop stalking her or using her name. Hmmmmmmmmm….
The minute anyone starts documenting their private thoughts and opinions on a blog they become a target for ridicule. V. gets that. Ryan and Jada don’t. Don’t want people making fun of your children or photoshopping their photos and sticking them on their blog? Don’t post them in the first place. Don’t want peopel picking apart your arguments and showing how truly ignorant you are? Don’t air your opinions in a public forum.
Thank God! V doesn’t do the whole “waaahhhhhhhhhhh…I have haters!!!” thing the way Jada does. Of course V has haters. That’s the point. You want fame? Well fame costs and you pay for it everytime another blogger decides to call you out for being insipid, stupid, vapid and shallow. You don’t get to be hateful, mean spirited, opinionated, self-obsessed and all around douchey and not get called on it if your end goal is to be noticed. It doesn’t work that way. The Ryans and RockstarMommys and Girl Whos and Jadas of the blogosphere need to get that.
“Love of fame is the last thing even learned men can bear to be parted from.” - Tacitus
What’s the matter, Jeff? Are those mikllions not rolling in, or are you just starved for attention?
In any case, lots of folks can play the stalker game, even dilbert fans in nebraska.
Notice how V didn’t deny she was Hollie.
She sure didn’t. Nor did she say she wasn’t any of the fifty other folks she’s been accused of being. Hmm…..zzzZZ.
Jen,
Maybe that’s because it amuses her when people stalk the wrong person. As long as people think she’s Holly, they won’t be looking for the REAL V.
If I were in her situation and people were running around saying I was Hollie Toner, I wouldn’t deny it either. I’d just pop some popcorn, watch, and laugh while they all barked up the wrong tree.
Meg said, “Maybe that’s because it amuses her when people stalk the wrong person. As long as people think she’s Holly, they won’t be looking for the REAL V.
If I were in her situation and people were running around saying I was Hollie Toner, I wouldn’t deny it either. I’d just pop some popcorn, watch, and laugh while they all barked up the wrong tree.”
Or maybe she’s really Hollie Toner. I don’t even care. It’s not like I’m going to hunt her down. Or that it makes any sort of difference in my life who she is.
I think she’s demented and lonely and hateful and people like that usually get what they deserve in the end.
She’s the sort of person who takes pictures of children from other people’s sites and photoshops them, posts them in a vindictive manner meant to silence women, pops some popcorn and then watches the show. What a life!
She has no conscience and is probably a sociopath. She goes after women more viciously than she goes after men. She goes after children like they are fair game in her quarrels with women which is despicable. She doesn’t address the person or the comments made, she goes in for the kill by targeting those women’s children. She’s a coward.
“She’s the sort of person who takes pictures of children from other people’s sites and photoshops them, posts them in a vindictive manner meant to silence women”
‘Someone made fun of my kid! Call the fucking police, someone stole my ability to take a joke!’
“She’s the sort of person who takes pictures of children from other people’s sites and photoshops them, posts them in a vindictive manner meant to silence women”
Who are we talking about? Rock Star Mommy? Stephanie Klein? Jada? Three mothers who pimp out their own children like the Kathie Lee Giffords of the blogosphere? Klein takes every chance possible to use her ailing son as a means for sympathy and attention to whore out her shitty books. Jada all but told people where her son goes to school and plays afterwards, probably hoping someone would try something so she could hop on her laptop and write about how scared she is, sneak in a pussy shot and a few mentions of how she married a doctor and therefore isn’t a golddigging, shiftless twat with no ambition and then beg for attention.
We’re supposed to feel sympathy for them because someone clipped a picture THEY posted and drew on a funny mustache and balloon quote?
The one person in the world that that those children are supposed to look to for protection and they serve their kids up on a platter to every freak and pedophile on the web. Poor them. V.’s a bully.
Dude.
You guys.
THIS is the guy that’s hyped about “finding out” V–our friend Hoodmonkey.
http://www.myroidtypecomics.com/otherpics/hoodmonkey.jpg
To learn more about ballsack.. I mean ‘balzac’ view her page at altreligion.about.com.
You’re a bit off though, balzac. My first name is Dane and I live in Indianapolis. I was born on April 27, 1988 and I don’t remember if I’m currently attending Ivy Tech of Central Indianapolis or if I’ve transfered to IUPUI or if I just sit in my Mom’s basement and create horrible flash games all day.
BTW, I’m right-handed.
You forgot the part where I dropped out. You suck at playing detective.
No shit, Myroid (fuck, I can’t even type that without giggling).
Encyclopedia Brown up there (um, Jeff/hoodmonkey) is quite possibly the shittiest dick out there.
I like how you contacted me, Jeff, because you firmly believe that I know V, the person Ryan Holiday’s selected as this week’s candidate for V-dom and that I’m witholding information.
A. It’s none of your fucking business.
B. It’s none of your fucking business.
Go crawl back into your internet hidey-hole and play detective with someone else. You are creepy.*
Judi I’m going to try and be polite here but the reality is that you contacted me. Your original post here implied you were unfamiliar with who110 but throughout the course of the conversation it became rather apparent you did know her.
Then you kept bringing up that I didn’t deserve the answers to your baited questions as if I were the one asking them. Really all I asked was why a who110 out of the blue contacted you if she didn’t know you.
Now you’re making me out to be some stalker-ish type guy who won’t leave you alone but really all you’re doing is placing yourself in the middle of something you perceive as a threat.
“Really all I asked was why a who110 out of the blue contacted you if she didn’t know you.”
“Judi I’m going to try and be polite here but the reality is that you contacted me. Your original post here implied you were unfamiliar with who110 but throughout the course of the conversation it became rather apparent you did know her.”
Unless you were the one who contacted J, how would you know J is Judi? How would you know who J was at all unless you were the person who contacted her?
And since who110 was speculated to be Jada, and since V ripped on Jada, and since Jada herself is more than familiar with IP reports and court records and all too familiar with stalking tactics…could Jeff be Jada?
Well J…I mean I, can’t be Jada, but that doesn’t mean that I can’t resort to some of her tactics. One thing I’ve learned from her is to save *every* IM session.
Jeff, you are a bald face liar.
I don’t believe anything to be a threat to me directly or indirectly.
And you did contact me…remember post #7? You asked me to contact you–can’t imply that I was trying to contact you randomly or otherwise.
Keep assuming what you like, but you’re barking up the wrong tree.
There’s like 4 people still interested in this saga. Two of them are Jeff.
Get some help dude.
You know, V, not all expressions of concern are a negative commentary on your ability to take care of yourself. I think you’ve reached the status of a favorite character in a novel. People care about what happens to you and they’re sticking around to see what happens next. We know you’re a big girl and can do it all by yourself.
I like you. I think of you as a fictional character, not because I think you make up your stories. All people on the internet are fictional characters. From watching this drama unfold, I would say that very few people are aware of this. Thanks for the entertainment V. Keep it comin’.
I don’t quite get how Jeff thinks that the appropriate response to “lol, ’shooped pictures” is to hunt down someone’s name and address, post them all over the internet and then go to their house and take pictures.
Dude, if you were trying to impress Jada so she’d do a webcam show for you, this was way more effort than needed.
I’ll give 50 bucks via Paypal to the first person who can email me her correct phone number.
Is that the same yuvu that was spamming blog comments last Spring to gain traffic to Stirrdup? You know the site that has the same Adsense pub-id as devpals?
Interesting..
Oh for fuck’s sake.
This is now the new Die Endlösung der Judenfrage? Photoshopping a kid? $DEITY$ take me, I’m ready to come home.
Of course, any time you piss off a mommyblogger, her duhfenderz have to somehow out you, as if that will show them. Please. If, every time someone on teh intarweb does something you don’t like, and the worst you think you can do to someone is put their name and address up, then take pictures of their house, you’re only two steps up from a drunken fratboy leaving flaming dogshit on a porch.
What’s next, you gonna TP her house? Soap her car windows?
Shit, if this keeps up, I’m going to HELP V. photoshop pictures of people’s kids, just because I can. And when teh mommybooger patrol decides to “out” me, I’ll give them exactly the consideration they deserve. Which will require a heaping helping of szechuan beef and a fresh roll of Charmin.
If any of those douchewads respected their kids’ privacy, they’d not be making them the front row center of their fucking blogs. There are, by the way, bloggers, who are parents, who manage to talk about the fucked up things kids do without revealing names or photos. BusyMom comes to mind. Her I read and I like. She’s not preachy.
The rest? Guess what? Your kid’s not special. There’s six billion people in the world. All of us can be replaced with ease. Probably by a shell script. Except for Jeff. For him? One sed command. No comments needed.
Morons. V.’s my fuckin’ hero now, and the day she made one of my entries her blog catchphrase for a month was totally cool. Remember kids, “Stab and Twist Until the Stupid is Dead”
And of course any time V gets pissed at one of the mommy bloggers (or anyone who has an opinion other than her own) she makes a quick visit to the mommy blogger’s flicker account/blog and steals every picture of a kid she can get her hands on (or she gets that retard Myroid to do it). That’s what the mommy bloggers need to remember and it’s usually too late once you’ve been targeted because they’ve already taken and saved on their own computers all the pictures they think they might need in the future. This is what you’re dealing with. Read her “Calm down no one is stalking me” post again and you will see how she’s just “dying for a chance to use a photo of a brunette haired little boy.” They’ve already taken lots of your kids pictures. Sad but true.
Hey, John C. Welch.. aren’t you the guy who wrote the book that I didn’t buy at Barnes and Noble?
Aren’t you also the guy who signed his comment with his full name as to push me into Googling him because he expected I wouldn’t give enough shit to do so otherwise?
Aren’t you also the guy who bored me to death with his stupid blog about Macintosh bullshit that name-dropped every blogger who made news on Google’s blog search as to gain traffic to his website that appears to have been created in iWeb by a fifth-grader?
Ah yeah, thats you. The thirty-year old who uses internet slang to invoke some sort of fear into me while offline he could get his ass kicked by the fucking girl-scouts.
There, I acknowledged you. Now quit replacing the world with shell scripts because that’s the sort of thing you’d typically read on Slashdot by some overweight fat Unix admin who masturbates to his own webcam.
We’re playing “see how much Jeff can find out about me” now?
Cool.
Do me next.
“Hey guys, my name is Jeff and I try to scare people by googling their web profiles and reading them to them. It’s great.”
Seriously, man. You have no room to talk about intimidation.
Plus you look funny.
Myroid, I expect the guys who hide behind an alias and draws cartoons all day to look pretty hilarious, themselves. But honestly, I’m in tears that some kid who couldn’t handle his first month of college that I don’t even know is embarrassed by how I looked two years ago.
Anyway, I’m not trying to scare anyone. People asked me to stop so I did and started joking around with John because he put his full name in. I’m thinking he can take a joke, but if not, we don’t know each other and it’s not of much meaning.
And seriously guys - paint me to be some internet stalker asshole but all I did was try to help someone figure out who authored the blog.. I wasn’t the first to post it online and I sure as hell didn’t post images of anyones house online.
Anyway, I’m done with all this.
dude, jeff - you are “that guy.”
that guy that sits in forums/my trade channel in wow/comment pages/wtf ever and blathers on angrily when everyone else has forgotten the argument. “yeah well your gear sucks”/”you live in your mom’s basement”/blahfreakingblah.
no. one. cares. what information you think you have, or that you can use an i.p. locator.
not even the mommybloggers want you anymore. the best thing to do now is just go buy some more blackout curtain and quietly return to your cave.
“Aren’t you also the guy who bored me to death with his stupid blog about Macintosh bullshit that ”
This, coming from the guy who used to detaqil his snack chip eating. You are one seriously small individual.
oh yeah about the mommybloggers thing - go to troll-baby.com and look at jeff being pwned in her latest blog’s comments.
and btw, has anyone tried googling what jeff said to? cause i got a whole bunch of nothing. ohhhh pat toner posted a comment about a movie? great lead there buddy.
OH GOD JEFF FOUND OUT I GO TO WKU AND THAT I’M A GIRL. FROM MY LIVEJOURNAL!!!
MY PRIVACY IS BEING INVADED I MUST RETIRE FROM INTERNETS AT ONCE!!!
at the risk of becoming like jeff -
looks like v.a. edited vodkarella’s pic. guess you can go home now jeff, since you were in this for the children, right? or was it the “manipulated images?” really, wtf were you in it for?
funny what can happen when people act like adults, huh? looks like they didnt even need you jeff.
While I think it was the right thing to pull the picture of Karen’s kid, I am amazed at her (Karen’s) nerve.
She has a far worse history of internet bullying and drama stirring than V. She ranted and raved (with the rest of the hive mind mommybloggers) about a post perceived as racist and gave the author no end of grief (demanding they not link to her, haha, god the ego) and squealed with the rest of them until it was finally pulled.
When Karen made a blatantly racist (though she, like the author she terrorized said she ”didn’t know” it was racist) post at Babble and when she was called out about it, she didn’t apologize. She ranted and screamed on her blog (about white women dictating discussions of race; hypocrite much, Karen?) and was told again what she said was racist. So she finally pulled the post at Babble and on her own blog, crying the whole time about feeling ”censored” on her own blog.
She first said V was a ”pig who got what was coming” and then lo and behold when her kid gets posted, she’s very sorry and V is a great writer and she’s ”learned a lesson” (because apparently the exact same thing happening to Sweetney, Dooce, RSM and countless others weren’t clear enough about how wrong it is to profit from your kids). Shit, when V’s info was first posted, Karen could not get to Ryan’s blog fast enough to link back to her own blog.
Attention-whoring-fat-ass-pig bitch. And I don’t mean V.
Karen Rani pulled down all her sites “so.done” she says.
V - can you now chase the rest of them off the Internet. Hell, I’ll Payapl you $50 if ya do….
Speaking of those Photoshopped images… I don’t ask much for the altered images, I do sloppy job meself too, but please, Myroid and V, please, for the love of Pete, please go through this document:
http://www.phong.com/tutorials/mask.tree/
If nothing else, use tools to blur the edges a bit, or use dodge/burn tools, or use layers and a soft brush on an eraser tool to just soften the edges a bit. Please please please!
The better you do and prepare any prank, the better they are.
Photoshop is for noobs. Go go gadget MS Paint!
…True.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk2sPl_Z7ZU
Jeff:
I am _the_ Jesus. The proof is in the internet.
Jeff wrote: “Myroid, I expect the guys who hide behind an alias”
I figured with your google skills you’d be familiar with an alias and it’s uses. Must come as quite a shock that people have been using them from the beginning.
The audacity of someone using one…. FORSHAME! You must hide behind it! I shall ATTACK you using an alias, for *I* have never done so!
@58
Ha, didn’t even see that post. And for the record, I dropped out second semester, not the first month.
I’m really just stumbling into all of this from a casual search of truthhurts.org on Google to see if it has been revived (some former fellow users have contacted me so I thought maybe it was still up and running)…but can anyone help summarize what this is all about? WHO/Hollie grabbed some photos from a woman’s blog/post and manipulated them to suit her view?
THAT is what happened? Huh.
I posted on WHO’s forum for two years and wouldn’t put it past her as she likes to push the envelope and also fancies herself invincible and above reproach.
However, if at any point she considered an uploaded photo as fair game for ridicule and woe to the idiot who posted it, I do remember her posting her own photo (blond nymph with a sweet, boring face) when she felt she wasn’t getting enough attention from Club Hell.
My ex still has it saved on his hard drive.
Anyhow, rock on with your research. She never wanted her name used on the forum and even auto-filtered it out (Holly/Hollie would appear as Shh!Shh!Shh! if a user typed it in ANY context, though most users didn’t know why), so unless she’s become less secretive about her identity in the belief that there wouldn’t be any social ramifications for being outed, I bet this whole thing bugs the living hell out of her. She’d be the last to admit it, but such are the glories of BPD. You should see the archived Yahoo chats I had with her. I considered her brilliant–a f’ing hero–when I signed up on Club Hell. But when you get past the one-way rants and see her in debate OR speak to her personally when the wires cross in her head, it’s scary, sad shit.
“Unstable” can only begin to describe her. It runs deep.
B, i big puffy heart you, whoever you are.