VA: Atheists are Snobs
Apr 10th, 2008
The problem with Atheists is most of them are snobs.
Atheists think they’re being clever with their spaghetti monster analogies and fairy tale rhetoric, but at the end of the day, […]
Original post: Atheists are Snobs



“They sneer at the Bible, but have no problem playing endless hours of vampire role playing games. The message is clear. Fantasies are OK as long as they include gratuitous violence and some sort of porn.”
But the Bible has crucifixions, prostitutes, and a city one letter away from “sodomy”!
No pictures, though.
I really only have one problem with religion - it promotes fantasy over rational thought. I have no problem with escapism, or the need to look for something more in this world - but don’t sacrifice rational thought in your pursuit of such endeavors.
That, and religion is the cause of most of the conflict in the world, I kinda dislike that part, too.
Jesus Christ, (in vain) everyone’s a snob on some level. She’s right, but it doesn’t matter.
Hey myroid, can you do anything about having the charity status bar graphic moved to the top of the page? I’m one of those “too-retarded-for-RSS” and when I load the webpage, and there’s not an update by V, at least I could see how much we’ve raised so far.
I keep a chart on myroidtypecomics.com right at the top.
As usual, V’s taking a grain of truth and spreads bull all around it. Oh well.
What strikes me as funny is that this whole “atheists suck”, “atheists are fighting a losing battle” and “atheists are just doing this out of spite” image really does not exist in here in Western Europe.
I mean, where does that put us? We’re hardly all immoral.
“..and religion is the cause of most of the conflict in the world, I kinda dislike that part, too.” –MonkWren
^^I couldn’t agree with you more on that part, MonkWren.
I hate those who Suicide Bomb or kill aboriton doctors for their religion. I don’t understand how they’ve come to believe killing others will put them in good standing with their god.
I am an Atheist. I am also a former Catholic. I do not look down upon people for wanting to believe in things butI think religion is bullshit. I don’t go around trying to convert Christians into Atheists. I don’t care what they choose to believe in, as long as they don’t try to convert me either. Whatever gets you through the day…
Hey al, isn’t it: whatever gets you through the night… it’s alright, it’s alright?
Okay, just going to put this down, fyi…
Get this… All religions are not the same!
I know, shocking, isn’t it?
Some religions are all about the damnation and hellfire, and you’d better do what we say or you’re going to suffer eternally… Some are a lot more focused on the ideas of love and peace… And yes, that applies even to different areas of Christianity.
And get this… all religious people are not the same!
Can you believe it??
Bottom line is… some people are pricks, and that’s true no matter what you believe or don’t believe. Some people will use any excuse they can come up with to be a prick. Religion works for some, believing there are no cosmic consequences works for others. Or, in this case, believing that the very idea of religion is idiotic.
Here’s the thing, though, people… We’re not so smart that we have it all figured out. The amount of knowledge that we possess vs the total knowledge of the universe is essentially zero. So, everybody has to have some sort of belief system. Some believe that science is the be-all and end-all to existence, and if you can’t quantify it, it doesn’t exist. Others think the world has too many coincidences to be happenstance. There are a lot of really smart people now and through history that have had all sorts of different beliefs about the nature of the universe… So… DON’T THINK JUST BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE SOMETHING EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO!!!!
Live & let live, folks. Your beliefs don’t entitle you to be a prick to everyone that disagrees with you.
A quote that I thought V might appreciate, because it fits the style of her post so much:
“Nothing in the world is the way it ought to be. - It’s harsh, and cruel. - But that’s why there’s us. Champions. It doesn’t matter where we come from, what we’ve done or suffered, or even if we make a difference. We live as though the world was what it should be, to show it what it can be.”
The sentiment is quite similar. You don’t do what’s right because you hope for a reward, or because you are afraid of what happens if you don’t or because you think that you are going to change the world. You do it because it’s the right thing to do.
Another funny thing I noticed with many atheists: they don’t just “not believe in god”. They actively believe in the opposite (that there is no god). They are entirely as zealous and religious as “traditional religious people”. They believe with every fiber of their being in something completely unproven that has zero evidence going for it. It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
Wow, most of V’s posts are interesting but this one was just plain retarded. Not all atheists are snobby. I don’t think I’ve met a snobby one yet. And this post seems like V got owned by some atheist in a coffee shop and had to rant incoherently about it. Most of the time when V makes fun of people or a group of people, she’s spot on, but this time she was out in left field with her analogies and examples. Oh and apparently World of Warcraft is an atheist den nowadays.
“Atheists sneer at the bible” not because fantasies are ok as long as they include violence and/or porn. The bible actually has plenty of that. The bible has people sacrificing and raping each other galore. Many atheists sneer at the bible because it doesn’t make sense. There’s no logic. There’s stuff in it that couldn’t have happened (how the hell does someone part a sea?) but religious people throw logic out of the window when reading the bible and blindly accept every single word of it. I know this isn’t true for every religious person, but for many it is.
And many atheists don’t hate religion, so I don’t know where V gets that from. I know many don’t like it because of all the damage it did (crusades, inquisition, 9/11) but there are atheists who admit that it can do good. For example: religious people are good because of religion, since they think a god is watching their every move, just waiting to catch them and ban then from heaven. If that’s their reason for being good, then I believe it’s very misguided (if these people thought there was no god, would these same people not be good- or if they knew they could get away with it…?). So V, please do some research, talk to some atheists and stop picking nonsense out of your ass. The only one embarrassing herself is you, not the atheists.
@Car’An
Yes, not believing in God does sort of imply that you believe there is no God. Great logic there. :)
Also, please be more nuanced. Bland general statements make you look bad.
Ehlyah: Typical annoying vocal atheists don’t just say “There is no evidence for the existence of a God, so I don’t believe in him”. They completely and utterly believe that there IS NO GOD. They are not just indifferent or neutral, they actively believe the opposite. I have yet to meet a single self proclaimed atheist who didn’t act as if they had indisputable PROOF that NO god existed.
Not believing in (a) god and actively believing that there is no possible way a god-like entity could exist are two very different things.
They believe just as strongly as fanatic religious people, just in a different thing. It’s the difference between “I don’t know any way to travel faster than the speed of light” and “It’s absolutely impossible to travel faster than the speed of light”.
I apologize for the Don DeLillo moments, but you gotta take ‘em when you can get ‘em… so keronian, don’t you mean: Live and let die?
you know you did you know you did you know you did…
Since I know bugger all about the subject, I went looking for a little snobbery - Atheist snobbery, that is. The first thing I stumbled on was a blog - gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog - wihch wasn’t so much snobbery, as anger (which I like), but this chick makes some good points about life in general. Kinda like VA does sometimes.
And even though I don’t know shite about Atheism, I got what VA was saying when I substituted ‘Atheists’ with other labels for people who bug me. Everyone’s got their gripes.
Everyone should visit friendlyatheist.com and for just one example of an atheist.
@Car’An- you certainly misunderstood 99% of the atheists you met. I read a lot of atheist blogs and they all say the same thing: we don’t believe in any sort of god because there is so evidence for one. We never, ever claimed to have indisputable evidence that god doesn’t exist. It is impossible to prove a universal negative. Saying that you have evidence for something not existing is a logical fallacy, and no atheist I have ever read would say that. On the contrary, most atheists would be more than happy to admit that if evidence for god appears, or irrefutable evidence, that can be scientifically verified, then those same atheists would believe god exists. Even Richard Dawkins, who wrote “The God Delusion” wrote in his book that he would be the first to admit that there is a god if any evidence every showed up for him [ or her- but it does it really matter if a non-existent being is male or female? ;) ].
“Furthermore, any group of people claiming superior intelligence that willingly engages in the fight of a losing battle automatically loses credibility.”
What a great way to summarize V’s entire blogging career.
I really disagreed with the sentiments expressed in this post. I find that many atheists “fight a losing battle” (Dog I hope not!) because if they don’t, their rights will be governed by “faith-based legislation”.
The difference between the WoW playing atheist and the fundamentalist Christian is that one knows that what they are engaging in is fiction. One believes that their much-translated and -edited book is the guide to life.
If religious believers are content to let me live my life, I am happy to let them do likewise. However, it seems that many people are using religion as a platform to control what I see, hear and do.
“The message is clear. Fantasies are OK as long as they include gratuitous violence and some sort of porn.”
Fantasies are OK as long as the individual sees them as just that: Fantasies.
I’m disappointed. I would have thought that V would be the last person to clump so many different groups into one stereotype.
…Oh wait.
By the way: The definition of an Atheist is someone who believes that their is no higher power. Period.
An AGNOSTIC is a person who does not believe in a higher power because no proof has been presented of any sort of divine being.
@Yoshiko:
Actually, an atheist is someone who *doesn’t* believe that there is a “higher power” (aka god). A theist is someone who believes, but the a- prefix in front of it means without, so atheist literally means without belief. It’s a subtle difference, but it’s there. :)
Forgot to add this:
While I’ve met my fair share of Atheist snobs, I have also met my fair share of snobby Christians, Jews, Muslims, Europeans, Whites, Blacks, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Americans, Australians, Canadians, Asians, Indians (both sorts), Middle Easterns, do I need to go on?
I have also met my share of considerate and understanding people from all these cultures, races and religions.
My point being: Stereotyping and generalizations disgust me. Especially when they’re based on biased opinion.
Max - That was precisely my point, though. While I said they “believe there is no higher power” I suppose I should have worded it “They do not believe in a higher power”.
My point was only that there is a difference between an Atheist and an Agnostic, it being that one does not believe, and the other takes on the idea that it’s a possibility, but will not believe until it is proven.
Am I making sense?
You guys all realize that V is an Atheist, don’t you?
Yes. I agree. But if even though an atheist does not believe in a god, if irrefutable evidence (like if god came down from the clouds and performed some miracles or something) emerged for one, then an atheist and an agnostic would both definitely believe in god. It would be irrational otherwise.
@Cassie: Yup, at least I do. But she makes it seem in her post as if she’s in a completely different group of atheists or something by using the word “they” all the time in that post.
I don’t know. The entire thing just reeked of satire to me. She was writing like she was making fun of herself. I mean, she made a cut on WoW (When we know she plays wow herself) and chastised people for being purposely inflammatory (When there is really no one more inflammatory than her)….I don’t know.
Am I the only one who read this article as very tongue in cheek?
Tongue-in-cheek, maybe, but thought-provoking, definately.
Actually Yoshiko, an agnostic is simply someone who admits they cannot KNOW whether or not there is a “higher power…” It has nothing to do with believing or not believing.
…And it tastes just like Coca Cola C-O-L-A Cola.
For the most part, I agree with V (I’m an atheist). I do think, though, that there’s NO ONE more snobbish than an anti-snob. Just my two cents.
@ #32 (Jay)
“I do think, though, that there’s NO ONE more snobbish than an anti-snob.”
Coffee and wine snobs rank right up there.
I can find no proof that GOD really exists. Until such time, I’ll continue to play World of Warcraft. I suppose I’m more agnostic, than an true atheist though.
By the way VA, as mentioned above, it seems like you did indeed get pwned at a coffee shop! Haha.
The reason this entry was so lame is because V doesn’t care anymore. She’s just biding her time while she can milk as much cash as she can from people donating to her “charity” and then we’ll never hear from her again.
And by charity, I mean her wallet.
Car’An-
You’re still stating the obvious. Atheist are by definition someone who does not believe in god.
Maybe you are confusing atheists and agnostics? Agnostics are those who are unsure.
Hey I’m an atheist…I could care less what others believe in and what they believe in makes them no less smarter or better than me. The atheist that get all the news are the same as the religious nuts and other high profile end of the spectrum nutbags that make up the minority of any group.
I do take issue with people pushing their beliefs on me and making laws based on divine inspiration or forcing kids into a belief system that makes no sense. (Yes my finger is pointing at you Creationist- I don’t care if that makes me a snob)
Most religions are about tolerance and caring and understanding. People hungry for power distort and pervert those teachings for personal gain. The result is that those of us who are quiet become silent victims of their crimes. If it takes a bunch of loud mouthed arrogant atheists to keep a bunch of religious wackos from forcing their beliefs on me. (or from stealing my car in the name of jesus) then that’s ok by me. If other rational people can’t see this then they need to get their priorities straight.
I think her post is merely grouping Gamers and Coffee Shop Goers into a collective she calls “Atheist Snobs”. I don’t think you can do that. I would think if anyone could see past stereotypes, it would be V, but this post was far from it. Okay, maybe she was taking examples from each “category” but I wish she had just left her points as “What I don’t like about religion” instead of saying “these people like fantasy and coffee…obviously they are atheists and therefore snobs.”
AND she says that “I, myself, have not been able to claim belief in a higher power for many, many years. However, I can still see the value in Religion.” Okay, so she is essentially an atheist who respects religion as a whole, just hates different parts about it. But because she’s not a gamer or a Starbucks lovin’ emo bitch, she’s omitted from the “Atheists Are Snobs” category. Hmm…
I’m not a part of any defined religion. I just know there is something out there. So, from my point of view, you’ve got snobs from every angle! Even the religious ones! God is too big to fit into one religion.
Okay, I take back what I said about V the other day.
I was ranting about this just the other day. I would absolutely rather have a world full of religious people whose gods kept them from hurting each other and from just generally being shitty people than a bunch of people who don’t give a fuck. I wish there were churches that did all the wonderful things that most churches do, like encourage each other and their children to have strong character and be kind and celebrate life and have fund raisers and sing joyful songs and talk about real life problems and ways to get through them and all that lovely stuff, but WITHOUT THE RELIGION. Why is it that atheists/agnostics/people-who-just-don’t-think-its-necessary-to-worry-or-make-firm-conclusions-about-their-maker-or-an-afterlife so rarely get together and form the kind of community support groups that churches do? It sucks that it usually takes religion to bring people together like that.
Jen, that’s a ridiculous comment. Fact is, the more atheists a country has, the more likely people are to get along. It’s religious places, where people give TOO MUCH of fuck, that we get violence, because people who believe too deeply always seem to end up wanting to be god’s policemen.
Atheists have every right to be annoyed with the irrational people, because those people aren’t acting on a ‘live and let live’ or ‘let’s have fun at church’ attitude- they’re running the country based on these same irrational ideas, all while treating nonbelievers like contagious pariahs.
King Kong
Oh fuck… I mean Godzilla!
Are You Unhappy? Is It Because of Consumer Addiction?
Well, Mother of 4 1/2, you clearly missed the entire point of my comment, including the part where I wouldn’t mind if everyone were religious if it kept them from HURTING EACH OTHER AND BEING SHITTY.
Disclaimer: I haven’t read all the comments before posting.
V, there’s a subtle difference between video games and religion.
For instance, I know that my lvl70 Paladin doesn’t actually exist anywhere and will not grant me any wishes. However, a good amount of people seem to think there’s a god up in the sky watching everything they do and will reward them for doing ‘good.’
V, I really think this post is just you trying to be the bad ass once again, or maybe you overheard some people talking about it and they annoyed you.
Either way, try harder. You’re the only blogger I read consistently since Maddox gave up, and lately I haven’t been all that interested in what you have to say. Sorry.
I grew up in a cult. I never believed in it, but it ruined my childhood with all it’s fucked up rules. I wasn’t allowed to have real friends outside the church (only school “acquaintances” who I was not allowed to spend time with outside of class), I had to hide any and all secular books from my parents, there were no holidays or birthdays, I was constantly lectured at for asking questions, I was followed by the religious leaders when I was in public, and a billion other things that I could waste a week relating. I’ve only lived away from home for a year and I’ve already forgotten most of the shit that went on. Except for the excessive shoulder and back touching by most of the men. That’s never stopped creeping me out.
When I was fifteen and really started to rebel against the church, I was the typical “atheist”. This all occurred online, because my parents didn’t and still don’t have any idea how to use a computer. Any time religion came up, I came down on it with all the vicious caps-lock rage of a pubescent teenager with a big vocabulary.
Eventually, I realized that obsessing over other people’s beliefs is for douchebags. What did it matter to me what other people chose to practice? As long as Christians and other religions that preach at people leave me alone and treat me with respect, I don’t care. Sure, I still have a generally bad feeling about religion, but I keep it to myself because I know that insulting people for what they choose to believe is ridiculous. If they’re being assholes about their religion, saying something is only going to make them feel angry and validate the opinion that they are “persecuted”. And if they’re just normal people who happen to be religious, then what the fuck is my problem if I’m insulting them for it?
I realized all this shit by the time I was sixteen. I got over it. I don’t even bring up my ex-cult most of the time because I figure, “Hey, it stole seventeen years of my life, why waste any more time spewing vitriol about it?”
Basically, my problem with atheists is that most of the time, they act like I did when I was FIFTEEN–and shit, I was in a cult then. What’s their excuse?
I guess the thing I don’t get about atheism is that it implies a belief in something for which you can have no proof. I can understand thinking the Bible is nonsense. I’ve read it 4 times and umm… its wierd. I can understand not subscribing to any one religious dogma or church- religious leaders are almost all insincere (those who cant do, teach). But the universe is a BIG place and we know soooo little… To be so sure that there is definately no god seems to me to be awfully… arrogant. Snobby in fact.
I don’t believe in God the way I don’t believe in pink unicorns or Bertrand Russell’s celestial teapot. I really don’t think pink unicorns exist and I don’t think there’s a teapot circling the Earth, but if you show me evidence that seems plausible I’ll start thinking maybe you’re right, and if you show me proof that checks out, I’ll believe.
I don’t like religion because it’s playing pretend for grown-ups. I think it discourages people from taking responsibility for their own happiness. But hey, if you want to give credit to somebody else for the things you do and blame bad things happening on somebody having it in for you (or on your own sinfulness, doesn’t matter to me), go right ahead. I just think you’d be happier if you knew you’re in control of your life for the most part.
Sageowl said:
“To be so sure that there is definately no god seems to me to be awfully… arrogant. Snobby in fact.”
But being so sure that there definitely IS a god isn’t arrogant at all, right? It goes both ways.
I guess you’re damned if you do… damned if you don’t.
Jen-
You missed her point. Everyone believing in religion does not mean that people will be better to each other and refrain from hurting. Religion isn’t the magic pill to make people good. Along with many religions comes extremism and then violence.
Would you believe just as not all religious people are good and moral not all atheists are without an ethical code? It’s true! Quite a few atheists “give a fuck” about a lot of things.
sageowl:
Would be a good idea to read these.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weak_and_strong_atheism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicit_and_explicit_atheism
The articles are kind of confusing, but to sum them up, there’s more than one kind of atheist. There’s the type of atheist who has NO BELIEF in Gods, and the atheist who has BELIEF in NO GODs. It’s a subtle difference but it’s important.
Myroid said :
“Sageowl said:
“To be so sure that there is definately no god seems to me to be awfully… arrogant. Snobby in fact.”
But being so sure that there definitely IS a god isn’t arrogant at all, right? It goes both ways.”
EXACTLY!! It does go both ways. Being so super sure that one’s own beliefs are right to the exclusion of all others is arrogant, regardless.
Religous folks would do well to remember that thier beliefs are just that-beliefs. Not actual hard data.
The belief that there is no god is really, again, just another belief.
Roger that Jay.
isn’t the “NO BELIEF in Gods” just agnosticism though?
I thought agnostics usually came in with a hearty “I have no fucking idea!”.
sageowl: Ziah has it right. Agnosticism is basically, “I don’t know if there’s a god or not” (Or in some cases “it is impossible to know if there is a god or not). Again it’s a subtle difference, but it’s there.
Should I try to be a straight ‘A’ student
If you are then you think too much…
I love when atheists are so proud of being part of the elite smarter-than-anyone group. These are the ones who tend to organize and are the visible representatives of atheism. That is unfortuate for the rest of us who really lean toward evolution, and reject religion. Sorry, but you are talking a lot of hardcore geeks and frankly a lot of people who aren’t as objective as they think, because they don’t look at the big picture. It’s all about numbers, facts and details, and not much about caring and humanity. That is why they are not organizing to do nice charitable things. It’s too bad, because I believe there are many “nonbelievers” who are decent well-rounded people living moral lives, but no no one sees that.
Although there is a bit disappointing thing posted after this one, I still think there’s few very good points. And few bad ones.
I agree. Atheists and all other religious fanatics are quite scary. Few thoughts:
“And hey, I try my best not forget that sometimes we all need something to believe in.”
I think this is one of the scariest reasons to base your view of world and everything in.
“Jesus vs WoW, Bible vs. Vampires.”
Ok, Jesus was a cool guy. But what about the second and the third book of Moses? Exodus and Leviticus? WoW is for kids.
Or playing vampire games? How about Exodus 22:18? (And none of that bs about “But Jesus said that I am the new connection to above, forget about the past” as long as you believe in the Ten Commandments.)
But to the “all the wrong reasons to believe” part. I agree on that one. The main reason what everyone forgets in this world and the main teaching of Christianity for me (almost surrealisticly agnostic) is by the guy who refrased Confucius’ golden rule about 500+ years before. Check Matthew 2:17.
People just don’t understand that Karma does work already in this life. I may be annoying on the net, but in real life I’m the guy who helps friends, don’t look down on people, is always friendly and smiley, picks up the trash after him + couple other things laying around, talks nicely and listens carefully, etc.. I try to live my life how Confucius said. And it shows. Even when I have a bad day, I have always good luck. Not in a way that I find a fiver from the ground and think it was my Karma, but as in I always get helped and served, have friends I can trust, I have trust, and should I ever be in need I have the problem to choose from which source I might accept the help.
But as I might’ve ranted on this site as well about the reason why religions were very important, I try to keep it short: Religion was very very important. But CCTV, Einstein and Britney Spears - not Nietzsche - killed God. “Do bad and a great big fist from clouds is gonna smack you.” - We got CCTV, we don’t need to scare people with something that might or might not happen. We do know that the great big hammer is going to bang that great big table if you do bad. “How far is moon? What are those small dots in the sky at nights? How does all of this work?” - Yeah, well, for example simple energy is mass times the speed of light squared should explain quite a lot. No need to be scared and explain “it’s just God, don’t worry.” But maybe the biggest godkiller is lack of time. If you sow the seed and go home after dark and lay in your bed with no books you might think about stuff. But now we got something better! Britney helps you from your painful “thinking”.
Ugh, I have spoken.
Can you be an Atheist of Atheism? I guess that’s where I would fall. What I like about V’s post was that she pointed out quite well just what the problem with Atheism is (though I’m not sure if she knows it). Ironically it’s the same problem with most Christians (and even many other religious movements). It is an argument which, on both sides, the parties involved have not matured beyond a very simple, childish theology. Christians (et. al.) and Atheists together spend their time arguing about the ‘god in the sky’ or ‘getting bad for bad/good for good’ or whether it’s more rational to believe that Jesus rose from the dead or that a celestial teapot is circling the earth or pink unicorns are roaming the planet.
The fact is that a properly formed, mature, spiritually driven and fed faith and theology is the truest source of peace and joy and love; of Oneness, Truth, and Beauty. This is why, almost without reserve we are able to look to individuals who have lived truly beautiful, inspired, peace-filled lives and recognize them as such…because such a Truth exists and breaks into our lives in very real concrete ways.
You know what is most interesting, her views on the punishment/reward belief system have been echoed by mystics throughout the ages. From a wide variety of religions and backgrounds. Real love can never flow from a system like that and real peace will never be found within it. What both Christ and other spiritual mystics have been trying to say all along is just this, what we commonly term as love is nothing more than enlightened self-interest. It’s not real love. Real love is something different, something deeper. It is not the action that is seeking reward, is is acting because of love and love alone. Or as V so succinctly states;
“Ideally, people would be good because it’s the right thing to do. Not because they want good Karma to come back on them and not because they’re hoping for a personal cloud to lounge on in the sky, but because doing the right thing is its own reward. I’d like to live in a world where people aren’t secretly hoping for a payoff for every single good dead they’ve ever done.”
It is this kind of love Christ demonstrates and calls people to follow, all the while knowing (and hoping) that they will have to start with self-interest first, (as walking before they can run) and hoping they will have common sense enough to allow themselves to mature beyond that to something deeper and more truly beautiful. Is a kind of loving he calls ‘the kingdom’ and it was never meant to be thought of as a place in the sky filled with virgins at your beck and call. It is, ironically and rather humorously, the action of loving in exactly the way that V and other ‘atheists’ in the world wish for.
So can you really be an Atheist when what you really believe in is the very Kingdom Christ proclaimed?
Wow, this was a very upsetting post, V. As an Atheist, I hope you are happy with your trolling bullshit. I hope you are happy that you have trolled one more Atheist and that I am raving mad. You have been granted your sick, twisted pleasures of getting a bunch of Atheists steaming with agitation as you libel them in your (horribly written) post. I hope you die irl in a fire and never have the chance to teach your children your hideous ways.
God damn you.
Big babies.
Dear LOL-
You are an ass.